One scene that made ABSOLUTELY no sense (spoiler alert) - Avengers: Endgame (2019) Discussion

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

I thought about that too. The concussive force of that kind of blast would have at least taken out one of two of them. But again, it is a comic book movie. Tony and War Machine would have likely been protected somewhat by their armor but how Rocket survived is surprising. He was with Roddy though and War Machine might have shielded him. It's a stretch but again, a comic book movie.

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[–] ATG6 (3000) 6 years ago

Hulk kept the debris from crushing them. Next.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 6 years ago

Tony Stark died to defeat Thanos: dramatic.

Hawkeye died struck down by collapsing building: not very dramatic.

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[–] ghostrider38 (1034) 6 years ago

Hawkeye didn't die.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 6 years ago

No, he didn't.

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[–] FFNogoodnik (775) 6 years ago

Actionkamen, It is just an example of why no one died during the blast.

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[–] RobPatelli (188) 6 years ago

He should have died. Also, that stupid witch woman. Neither of those characters are interesting enough.

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[–] AP (5288) 6 years ago

Ant Man should definetely be dead since he was standing by a window when the first strike happened.

Weren't the rest in that underground bunker?

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[–] ExTechOp (2770) 6 years ago

Ant-man reflexively shrunk down when he got blown back - shrinking seems to render him more durable

The rest were at the same level - below ground level but still a ways to go. Bruce, Hawkeye, War Machine and Rocket are all shown falling further.

But only Ant-man was exposed to an actual explosion

And yeah, it would be terribly undramatic to lose the scene of Rhody and Rocket drowning together: "See you on the other side, man!"

I'm happy to accept some suspension of disbelief for scenes like that.

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[–] FilmBuff (7232) 6 years ago

It wouldn't be a comic book if they died like that. Plus, the scene reminded me in more than a passing way to the cliffhanger ending in an issue of Secret Wars where... Dr. Doom? Someone... drops a mountain on the heroes and they all die. Or do they? OMG the Hulk is holding up the entire mountain on his shoulders and they are all alive! You'd think at least one hero would have died, but then again-- comic book!

I'd have given the Russos bonus points if Hulk was weakening and about to drop the wreckage so Rhodey started talking mad shit about what a dumb brute he is, only good for one thing and he can't even do his effing job, for the same reason that Mr. Fantastic did so in Secret Wars-- he made fun of Bruce Banner so he'd revert to a more angry, primal Hulk, and thus get stronger and hold the mountain up longer.

Anyway, it was a dope scene, and it would have been pretty dumb to kill a hero that way.

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[–] Truthtalker (1969) 6 years ago

Yeap, but not just for being a superhero movie, but a movie in general, he doesn't get hearing damage either

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[–] ATG6 (3000) 6 years ago

The moment that made no sense was how did Capt. Marvel find Iron Man in space? She just got paged by Nick Fury, it didn't have a lot of details.

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[–] ExTechOp (2770) 6 years ago

Captain Marvel went to earth first in response to the page - you can either infer this or actually see it in the mid-credits of "Captain Marvel"

Once she'd met the Avengers, she could track the ship. It's nearly certain Rocket can track it somehow. Worst case, she can just backtrack to Titan.

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[–] RobPatelli (188) 6 years ago

Agree about that. I expected some (or atleast one) to die. But, I am sure all the extras in the red tunic definitely died even though didn't show that to us.

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[–] Hans-Wilhelm (1355) 6 years ago

They are superheroes. They are always taking massive hits and not being destroyed. They crash land in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. II and Drax is hanging out the back on a tether smacking tree trunks at 200mph. He laughs when it's over. Captain America dives out of the elevator from like the 5th floor and lands on the concrete...gets up and runs off.

They're supers!!! You and I would be dead. Not them.

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[–] ExTechOp (2770) 6 years ago

... not them.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Cap dove out of the elevator and when he hit the ground he used his shield to absorb the impact, vibranium does that.

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[–] Hans-Wilhelm (1355) 6 years ago

Oh, ok. So you imply Cap is just like a normal guy then and he would have died without the shield then.

I guess your understanding of his body and powers differs from mine then.

According to your implication he should have died when he took several facial blows from a vibranium arm. He should just die when shot three time by the Winter Soldier instead of putting in the chip then climbing down and lifting the huge steel beam off of him.

They aren't really supers with bodies that withstand blows that would kill regular people.

There was a vibranium shield, the entire point is moot. They are just as weak and fragile and everyone else (Hawkeye and Nat probably are....they would require luck to be in the right place to not be crushed.) and after all of the hits, falls, blows, explosions they've absorbed, a collapsed building should have killed them all.

Got it.

There was a vibranium shield.

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[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7699) 6 years ago

Good point Hans. That reminds me of my least favorite thing in 60s Avengers and Captain America comics. There's always some villain who thinks, "Captain America is just a normal person who has no powers. I can take him out easily." Then they get their butt kicked by Captain America. It's like they ignore the Super Soldier Serum he got. It just makes them look stupid.

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[–] Hans-Wilhelm (1355) 6 years ago

Thanks.

I remember also that Captain American falls roughly 100 feet in the missile silo when Tony is trying to kill Bucky and Cap is trying to stop him. Bucky is blocked from getting out when Tony fire a missile at the door that covers the silo and while they are battling at the top of the silo Cap dives and grabs Tony and they both plummet to the bottom and Cap lands on the concrete. That will kill us. Even if we survived we would have shattered bones and broken legs, shattered hips and crushed spines.

Cap got up and eventually destroyed Tony's mini chest reactor. During the fight he is shot several times with Tony's energy blasts from the suit, he is thrown into the concrete corners of that blast release chute and hit many times with Tony's metal suit. He gets up and says "I could do this all day."

So yes, their bodies are stronger, more dense and more impervious to a collapsing building. Let's not even get started on Hulk and Thor and how indestructible their bodies are.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

It was definitely nowhere as realistic as Elastigirl running over and enveloping her family before the missile hit their jet in the first Incredibles. That was a great scene.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

Oh and here's a way to make sense of it: In every other timeline where the base was attacked, most of them died.

This was the one timeline when they all survived, so we are watching that one!

Voila

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