Looks like another Christian propaganda film

I believe He was credited as a fluffer.

IMDb-boards would be less confusing if people would mark their signatures clearly.

it is the most christian film ever done.

Any Christian film will have problems, and any Christian film will show certain biases depending on the denomination, etc of the creators of the films. Every Christian film is imperfect.

I agree that The Passion of The Christ has it's problems, but I would not discount it as a Christian film.

Please stop.

The Passion of the Christ is not a Christian movie???

Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

Passion was one of the most accurate and epic Christian movies ever made, and will likely remain the flagship Christian movie for years to come.

Praise Mel Gibson!

Dear Jesse,
It doesn't matter that the Passion of the Christ is not what YOU perceive as a Christian movie, it is a movie about JESUS. I know it's a roman catholic thing, something that is part of their tradition (the passion productions), but that does not make it less moving.

It doesn't matter that an actor produced it, one who is or at least was in recent years fallen away from God, yet he is still CALLED by God, isn't he?

I know muslims who are being called by God right now, and they are listening. No, I don't mean 'allah', who is as false a god as the 'god' worshipped by mormons and the alien being worshipped by scientologists.

No one can know the moment, but surely you feel it is close? I certainly do. I've spent the last 22 years working projects all over the world, and writing books about my experiences. I know that islam is the religion of the devil, and that, for NOW, the devil owns this world. You know it too.

It doesn't matter what the little children who laugh derisively at God, here on IMDB, think. They are either lost forever to God, or at least, FOR NOW. God 'has always been there waiting for them, but they have to choose'. God gave us free will, and because He is God, He can see how each of us ends up. He doesn't control our lives, He simply watches us, calls to us, and is joyous when we capitulate to Him and accept Jesus. As I'm sure you know, no one knows the Holy Spirit UNTIL they cry out to God and accept Jesus. Until that moment, one does not know about the Holy Spirit. The children who rail against God, do not know how Jesus suffered and died for all of us...but you and I know.
I pray for those who are lost in the world, every day and every night.
God bless you.


Life is a journey not a destination. Fear nothing. God is waiting on the other side.The

Made by a Christian, about Christ, watched by millions of Christians = Christian movie.

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I'm not sure I would disagree with you. On ANY level. Because if you are going to spread God's Word, do it for FREE. Or...if you make money...give it all away.... The Catholic Church is very wealthy. Evangelists are wealthy. They are constantly selling books...keep your robe white. I hear you. I do...

On the other hand, I would rather see movies like this than luciferan message films. And the Christian music industry also has songs which glorify God, but at what point are you peddling God for personal gain and fame? It's definitely something people shqould consider and think about. Thoughts? But then again, it's definitely wrong to try to profit off of the mocking of God... Like some of these insult to God films....

Galena


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It takes many hours to make a movie. Are you saying that the actors should put all that time into memorizing lines, rehearsing and filming and not get paid? Christians have bills to pay too. We don't all get free housing, food, health care, insurance, etc. We have to pay for it.

And yet you ignore Q-man generalizing all Christians

As for example: years ago, I had cable and didn't know my 9 year old son was watching HBO adult films.

but seeing an almost nude person, which is something completely natural, is just so terrible.

You're actually an addict yourself. You're addicted to believing in a god. Just like with any other addiction, it prevents you from thinking rationally about your "drug".

What verses in the Bible say that nudity is bad? Or that fiction should only feature characters doing morally right things? Honestly, I know a great deal about the Bible, have read it myself, and I could just be blanking out, but I don't believe I ever came across any damning of the human body or images of it, profanity, fictional violence, or ANY kind of fiction whatsoever. Where does the idea that these things are somehow 'bad' come from?

Well said...

Galena

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once again, liberal is not anti-christian. It is pro separation of church and state. Just because a certain way of thinking is common in this country and appeals to the majority of movie-goers does not make it "liberal propaganda".

What a load of crap that was! What a lot simplistic nonsense, right out of right-wing radio. You mentioned liberalism five times in this idiotic rant, with nary a thought going into it.

First, just because you were a simple-minded atheist doesn't mean that other atheists are simple-minded. Second, liberalism doesn't have a simplistic view of human nature; it's just the opposite. It appreciates the diversity of thought and culture present in human nature, and it seeks to embrace those differences, or at least be respectful of it. It's people like you who do in fact have a simplistic view of the world, and you've got your patriotism and your conservative politics swirling around in conscience-free vortex call Christianity, thereby giving your politics a righteous brand. And I know this because of your monomaniacal focus on liberalism, as if liberals can't be Christian or have some other very deep values, and a code of ethics they reference. It's all political to you, but you're so self-righteously pious, you can't see how blind you are to that fact.

Every good thing that comes to this society has been resisted by people like you, from the right to vote, to Civil Liberties, to decent pay, the 40-hour workweek, child labor protection -- everything. There is no liberal propaganda: there's an ideology that seeks to make human life endurable for the disadvantaged, in the here and now, not in some future paradise in an invisible kingdom, after they're dead. You live in a world of trite cliches, about "sexual revolution" and "feminism" (and that you would even refer to it with such contempt shows me you don't know what it's really about). You seek to stifle this sort individualism, with your own simplistic view of what you consider your ideological enemies, with an absurdly simplistic tale in itself.

And here is your ideology stripped from its pious facade: you believe that a god created a universe, then populated it with human beings; after his creation is in full swing, the man sins, and the god then condemns man to suffering on earth; later (about two thousand years or so), the same god, to save his creation, takes on a human form to submit himself to his own human sacrifice for sin, after which he raises himself from the dead; then later, in his final chapter of his ridiculous story, he promises that he's going to return and condemn to unimaginable horror and torment, in a twisted purification scheme, anyone who doesn't buy into this primitive claptrap.

That is simplistic thinking at its very worst, and primitive ideology that only a nincompoop could embrace. It's absolutely insane, and I make sure I keep a distance from anyone who forfeits good thinking in favor of a simplistic, spiteful view of the world. And your comments were full of that spite, that disdain for a world that rejects your simplistic, myth-based ideology. It tells me that something isn't right about a person who wants to believe this sort of stuff, who relishes this nonsense. It's hatefulness on a massive scale, passed off as something holy. Thankfully, you're in a minority, and thankfully your influence is on the wane.


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Alric

A film which depicts characters that do certain things does not inherently promote those things. There are many films which feature Christian characters, for instance, which don't promote (or oppose) Christianity. The idea that there are 'Christian films' is wrong. The Bible makes exactly 0 statements about the immorality of fiction. What you believe, personally, is what matters.

I find it odd some of the things you include as part of the 'Hollywood Gospel'. Diversity in particular. Jesus tackled that issue head-on and resoundingly promoted diversity. His followers and the authorities at the time did not want him teaching to gentiles. And he defied them and argued for a total equality in the eyes of God. I don't know what you include in your conception of 'liberalism' (there are lots of different definitions of that) but conservatism holds just as many inherently anti-Christian ideals. Just look at how they idolize money and the rich while opposing assisting the poor. Jesus was crystal clear on that matter as well. The rich are almost entirely damned, and sacrificing material wealth to help the poor and hungry is the responsibility of every Christian. Jesus hung out with prostitutes, thieves, and murderers, offering them a message of love. He did not speak softly to the money-changers in the temple. He kicked their tables over and shouted at them. Read the gospels and what Jesus said, directly, about money. You are to give to those who ask, even if they are your enemies, even if you will not be paid back. If someone sues you under the law and takes your garment, give them your coat too. And what about war and imprisonment? That hardly sounds like turning the other cheek so that they may strike that one also. Jesus' teachings are as controversial today as they were when he first presented them, if not moreso, and they contravene conservatism as often as they do liberalism.

But does that matter in most cases? Are most movies seeking to convince the viewer of a particular worldview? No. All films have a message, but in order to communicate that message they have to speak in a language that the audience understands. That's true whether the message is endorsement or refutation of the beliefs of the audience.

As for 'propaganda', I think you just don't understand the meaning of the term. Anything that is deliberately spread to help or hurt a specific group is propaganda. 'Do You Believe?' is deliberately spread to help the Christian community. That doesn't make it bad. It does make it propaganda. Something like a superhero movie doesn't qualify, even though it might depict a world which operates in a way contrary to your beliefs, because it's intent is not to promote, or even communicate, that worldview. It is simply assumed as the backdrop because it is the worldview the audience (a majority of which call themselves Christian, mind you) understands. Even if they don't agree with it, they understand it, and it doesn't get in the way of the actual message (which is usually some conservative message about how the ends justify the means so long as your team wins, the core of conservatism and profoundly anithetical to Jesus' pacifism and acceptance of enemies and persecution).