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"Just like Watkin in 'Star Wars'..." Please explain this line to me.


I'd appreciate it.

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It's a reference to the scene in A New Hope when Leia, Han and Chewbecca are in the garbage compactor in the Death Star. It sounds like he says 'Watkin', but I think he says 'whatsit' ie he doesn't know the character's names. It's a common English word when you aren't sure of something.

It's too cerebral! We're trying to make a movie here, not a film!

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I know about Star Wars, and I knew he was referring to the trash compactor.
But he definitely says "Watkin." It is confirmed if you activate the subtitles, and the name of the episode is titled "Watkin." I don't get the joke.

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I didn't see that the episode was entitled 'Watkin', my bad.

After googling, Geek of Doom has something to say about it:

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2016/11/14/tv-review-dirk-gently-1-4

It says in the recap: " “Burnt and crushed to death like Watkin in Star War.” (Yes, Star War.) "

Perhaps, and this is merely a theory, this takes place in alternate universe where the film is called Star War and one of the main characters is Watkin? I assume it's something that will be followed through in later episodes, or perhaps is just another nugget thrown in to allude to a big reveal, and (like you picked up and I didn't!) they deliberately drew attention to it with the name of the episode.

Dr Google doesn't seem to throw up any more connections. I'm sure that all will be revealed in the course of time, after all everything is connected 

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The only reference to a character of a similar name that I could find is from here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Watkins

It's a rather obscure reference in the Star Wars extended universe, but his death seems more closely linked to being burnt and crushed than the trash compactor scene. (I couldn't find any details about the explosion that killed him, other than the blood loss.) The interesting thing, if it is indeed what Dirk is talking about, is that the 's' is dropped from both the name of the character and the name of the film. It seems too deliberate to be coincidental, which leads me to think it may be a clue. Perhaps an s is dropped from a character in the show and it's significant? Like "Springs" instead of "Spring". Or a pronunciation clue, like "Luck Dujour" instead of "Lux Dujour"?

Or maybe it's just a throwaway line.

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Wow that's a cool find! It's fun either way - perhaps that was the intention of the film-makers - to get people to go out and do some digging, have a bit of fun with it! If they dropped the 's' from Watkins and the 's' from Star Wars, it's not a reach to think that's who Dirk was talking about and dropping the 's' is significant.

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I didn't notice that either. Thanks for pointing it out.

Perhaps as they travel back in time, presumably to save all those lives, which they can't do according to some theories, all they can do is start new reality, and both realities exist simultaneously, perhaps in one of them Luke is Watkin

Or not.



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Interesting. I like the alternate time-line theory. It would be consistent with the way Douglas Adams wrote the original book. The first time I read it I missed a *massive* clue to the time-travel explanation, quite early on in the story, because it was similarly subtle and easy to dismiss as nothing important. (And because I didn't know enough about Samuel Taylor Coleridge. My bad.)

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Just curious, what was the clue?

I have read/heard it so many times I forget what I originally picked up on and what I did not.

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The Coleridge clue (in the novel, not the TV show) involves a reading of Coleridge's famous poem, "Kubla Khan," left unfinished in our universe, but a complete masterpiece in the universe of Dirk Gently. In our universe Coleridge was interrupted while writing the poem by a "person from Pollock" who visited on a matter of business, and by the time Coleridge got rid of this unnamed person, he had completely forgotten the final verse of the poem.

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Maybe it's a meta-joke that makes fun of movies that make Star Wars references. The pun being there is no (relevant) character called Watkin. Also to annoy the typical Star Wars fanboy/fangirl. Anyway I like it!!

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Which episode and what time was it?

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