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Ego's plan would have worked if he wasn't such a moron and knew when to keep quiet


Peter was completely on board with Ego's plan until Ego told him that he gave him mom cancer. Peter had no idea that Ego had done that. All that time he just assumed his mom got cancer naturally the same way other people did. All Ego had to do was keep his mouth shut and let Peter continue assuming his mom got cancer naturally. If Ego had just kept quiet about what he did to Meredith then Peter would have gone along with his plan and it would have succeeded.

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Ego was so powerful, he didn't HAVE to be smart!

Nobody with Godlike power does.

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Ego wasn't that powerful that he didn't need Peter. He needed Peter for his plan. And telling Peter the truth about Meredith's cancer did nothing to help him with his plan.

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he was trying to regain dad points with peter try to understand the nuance because Yondu did it later

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He didn't have to tell Peter that he gave his mom cancer to regain dad points. How the hell would him telling Peter about that regain him dad points? That would obviously just earn him negative dad points, which is what immediately happened when he told him about it. Like I said in the OP, Peter was already completely on board with Ego's plan by that point. Telling Peter that he gave his mom cancer was completely unnecessary for his plan.

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Funny how MCU fans love Thanos but hate Ego, considering that they are pretty much the same character.

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I don't hate Ego. It's just that he was stupid to tell Peter that he gave his mom cancer.

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Well, maybe he realized that Peter would have found out a truth sooner or later and decided to come clean.

Also, Ego is a god-like being who has been alive for centuries. From his point of view, killing Meredith was no different from putting a dog to sleep. Was it stupid? Yes. But I can see why he would not see anything wrong with telling Peter a truth.

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First off, even if Peter found out the truth later, that would have been after Ego had already carried out his plan. Peter finding out later wouldn't have hurt his plan after it already succeeded. Telling Peter right at that moment destroyed Ego's plan. That's what made him so stupid.

Second, how the hell would Peter have found out later that Ego gave his mom cancer? It's not as if he had stray paper documents or computer files proving it just lying around his planet for Peter to find. The only proof of what Ego did is what he told Peter. Without Ego telling Peter what he did, Peter couldn't have possibly ever known. People get cancer and die all the time due to entirely natural causes. Peter always assumed that was the case with his mom and he never would have had any reason to even think otherwise without Ego going out of his way to tell Peter what he did.

Ego may have been around for centuries but he obviously understood the concept of love. He loved Meredith and so he must have understood that Peter loved her as well. He was smart enough to understand what it would mean to Peter if he told him that he caused her to die.

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What similarities do you see between the two? Thanos was doing what he felt was his moral duty, even when it involved great personal sacrifice. Ego felt alone so he decided to implant his persona on every planet in the universe. I don't see what you see them having in common.

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Both Ego and Thanos are evil aliens.
Both are fathers (biological or adopted) of the superheroes who are members of GOTG.
Both, when they had to choose between their loved one and their goal, chose to kill the loved one for the sake of their goals.
Both started out as enemies of GOTG.
I am sure Ego sincerely thought he was doing the universe a favour by turning every planet into his copy. Just like Thanos thought he was doing universe a favour by commiting gencoide.
Both were killed by the combined efforts of superhero teams.
Both were betrayed by their servants who joined the good guys.
Both have a personal beef with Starlord.

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You're listing some pretty superficial stuff, some of which isn't completely accurate. Thanos didn't start as an enemy of the Guardians of the Galaxy. He first appeared in the films as the enemy of the Avengers, but was already off doing bad things even before that. Ego never seemed to be taking the good of the universe into consideration. He was killing indiscriminately in order to further his own selfish needs, and never expressed any sense of altruism or duty.

In the ways that seem to me to matter most-- motivation, personality, behavior, history-- the two are completely different.

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Yeah, in a lot of ways that really ruined the movie for me. Besides that moment, it's a solid film, but that made zero sense. It wasn't as if Ego was portrayed as being unable to understand humans and their emotions. He even fell in love with a human. It was very clear to him that Peter loved his mother, so why would he casually mention in conversation that he killed her. And his reason for killing her made no sense, either. He was worried she would distract him from his mission? He's been alive for like a billion years. If he lived on Earth with her for the remaining 60 or so years of her life, would that really have been even a blip to him? They really dropped the ball on that crucial plot point.

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