Is this a comedy?


Watched episode 1. This is the most poorly written show I've ever seen.

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The writing is far better than TWD.

It's difficult to describe but i'll give it a shot: One part road movie, one part comedy, one part action movie, one part horror. It's more light-hearted than TWD and aside from the zombie apocalypse, they have virtually nothing in common.

Unlike TWD, the characters damn near never make idiotic decisions. All the situations they get in are usually resolved logically(as in it makes a lot more sense). You hardly ever have to justify any plot-holes because there hardly are any.

Don't make the mistake of going into it with TWD in remotely in mind. Z-Nation is a lot more fun to watch.

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Why are you comparing it to TWD?

I've only seen the first episode, but it was hard to watch. Before escaping with the "cured" inmate, Hammond leaves his comrade to stand by the gate in the facility for no purpose. Doesn't make any sense.
Then, he hears a knock at the door and it's his comrade, but he is actually a zombie. Are we supposed to believe the zombie knocked on the door to plant a trap?
Hammond shows up at their camp with some guy and they are unrealistically friendly toward him even after he kind of threatens them.
3 years into the apocalypse and they somehow have their camp in a pretty open setting with only a weak chainlink fence for protection?
The bat weapon the girl had was idiotic. Welded aluminum would surely dent if not flat out break after a couple hits to the head of a zombie.
It seems like food, gas and ammo are very very plentiful and everybody seems very friendly with one another.
That one guy kills all those zombies with a single blow from a hammer, but in the previous scene the gun salesmen says it'll take 2-3 shots to the head from a .22 to put down a zombie? And the zombies all enter in a nice orderly single file line for the guy to kill them?
And why the hell did they need to send Hammond back in to kill the baby? These are people who have been in the apocalypse for 3 years, are they really so stupid to risk their lives to kill a zombie? And if they needed to kill it, why send one person in? Why not all go in or at least cover him?
And I call BS on the mom zombie just taking a nap until it was convenient to ambush Hammond.

It seems like an 8th grader wrote the script for this first episode at least. Not sure I want to give it any more chances.

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He most likely compared it to TWD because the person he replied to compared this to all other zombie shows.

I might be mistaken but wasn't the reason for him moving that they were getting ready to leave the compound?

A zombie wouldn't intentionally knock but he could have done it while trying to break down the door, or he could've knocked as he was being turned. I don't have a clear memory of that part though.

The reason they were safe could be many, such as various natural elements that could have been in the way for the zombies. Also, a fence that is properly seated would prove as good defense as zombies can neither climb them nor use wire cutters.

They might've been friendly towards him because he was military and realized his mission was important as well as for the fact that they care more about humanity than most other survivors in the post apocalypse.

The bat doesn't break as the bat itself is made out of wood which can be clearly seen later on in the show but also because of the fact that zombies' flesh and bones aren't as strong as in humans.

They have tons of problems finding fuel, food, ammo and even water which you would have known had you watched more than one episode.

If you're strong it's not that diffucult to take a zombie out with a hammer. Zombies are all but smart which is why they don't make strategic attacks. A gun requires precision and would naturally require more effort.

They obviously didn't know how much trouble a zombie baby could cause which isn't surprising seeing as how few of them there are in the world. They also care a lot about humanity and felt it was their duty to give the poor baby mercy.


The script for this is by far better than TWD and is amazinfly entertaining. You really ought to watch the whole first season which is free on Netflix, and give this show a chance. I personally think this and iZombie are the best zombie tv shows I've seen.

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If you had said that the writing is by far better than Fear The Walking Dead I would be with you, but The Walking Dead is better, especially the parts that are based on the comics. Some of the parts and characters that were invented by the show's own writers suck, though.
That said, I don't think you can actually compare The Walking Dead and Z Nation. They are both shows set in a post-apocalyptic zombie-ridden world, but that's all they have in common. Both shows are awesome in their own ways.

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TWD sure has better overall production by far, but the writing was the reason I stopped watching it. I liked it a lot in the beginning though.

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The writing is far better than TWD.


lol, no.

TWD is up there with Romero's NOTLD and DOTD. True classics.

ZN is more on par with one of those direct to video movies, fitting since it's made by the Asylum, which is all about just cranking stuff out and hoping someone mistakes it for the "real" movie it's knocking off.
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It isn't solely a comedy, but there are major comedic elements. I would have thought that obvious.

It is not poorly written, but I can see how a viewer might think that, if they assumed for some inexplicable reason that none of it was meant to be humorous.

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He's only seen the first ep, which is arguably the worst of the first season.

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Still. I mean, how can you be unsure if lake zombies, driving zombies, and zombaby are supposed to be funny?

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Zombie Strippers and Zombnados must be real!

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To be fair, those take a while to show up... but they're very much in keeping with the humor it has right from the start!

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How could you forget about the three wise Zombies of the East and their Z-camel coming to meet the zombaby Jesus born in a barn?

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The poster to whom we were responding had only seen the first episode.

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He's only seen the first ep, which is arguably the worst of the first season


Nope. This one is.....

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That's one of my favorite episodes, so no.

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Yeah, I wouldn't argue with anyone who picked that as the stinker. I guess the counter-case, if any was offered, would be that the "Die, Zombie, Die" ep is more in keeping with some of the wilder storytelling adopted by the show as it matured, whereas the pilot looks very much like a series that hasn't yet figured out what it wants to be.

That "Die, Zombie, Die" ep, it should be noted, wasn't supposed to happen. The original story slotted for that episode was the Grand Canyon ep that was eventually done for season 2 but the creators realized as they went along that they simply didn't have time to do the pre-production on it--it was a large-scale ep--and opted, instead, to cobble together what became "Die, Zombie, Die" at the last minute, making it a budget ep employing leftover locations and props.

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It belongs to the same genre as Sharknado.

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In fact, the 2015 film Sharknado 3 had a crossover with Z Nation. The character Roberta Warren appeared with a lower rank, making the film a prequel to Z Nation.

I haven't seen Z Nation yet, just the trailers. I'll save my verdict until after, but I want to know if this has the same level of outrageous high-octane over-the-top extremely unlikely moments that make you laugh out loud.

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I wouldn't call it "outrageous high-octane over-the-top extremely unlikely moments that make you laugh out loud", but I got caught up because hubby was watching. It is funny, but some of it you have to look or listen for.

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I haven't seen Sharknado so that's good to know. Warren makes a reference to it in ep 1.5, Home Sweet Zombie, but I assumed it was just a joke based on the popularity of the film.

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I gave this show a shot. It sucked early on. Cliches, bad acting, bad dialogue. It ruined what could have been a cool road trip meets apocalypse show. But it did have one thing going for it; they were always moving. Unlike TWD where they get bogged down at one location for episodes or seasons at a time, these characters have motivations that drive the shows and each episode is a new mini adventure. Too bad the writing and acting sucked. I gave up after 3 episodes...


Fast forward to this weekend. There was a Z Nation marathon on while I was dogsitting. Afraid to mess too much with the channel, I sat and watched because, hey, laughably bad zombie movies/shows are better than the food network or Tots & Tiaras reality shows.

Much to my surprise, it didn't suck. Somewhere at the end of season one or beginning of season 2 it must have hit its stride. It's still full of clichés and campy action, as well as some intentional laugh-out-loud moments (George R.R. Martin? Really?) but I found the characters more believable and their chemistry and acting improving. Yeah, there's still some stinker jokes that miss the mark, and some over the top ridiculous moments, but I cared about the characters. When I left and came back and found one or two were no longer part of the group (I'm assuming killed off) I was legitimately saddened.

So now I guess I have to go back and give this show a shot from the beginning. Going into its 3rd Season, maybe this show does give us a lighter alternative to the cerebral Walking Dead, from the success of which Z Nation sprung. Dare I say, Z Nation may be almost if not just as entertaining but for different reasons.

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Thanks, I might give this a chance now. Kudos to you for a good review on a show; sounds like you had the same trouble with it as I did when I watched then gave up on the first episode.

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I don,t believe that it is a comedy, because Z-George R. R. Martin was so real. I believe that it's true, only the government hides it from us

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Was terrible but amusing in season 1... season 2 turned to pure garbage. You'll still find some die-hard supporters here (they seem to flock to IMDB), but that's about it. If it doesn't significantly improve early in this season, it will be cancelled (and good riddance).
I say this as someone who enjoyed season 1 for what it was.

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