Confused...whose baby was it? - Versailles (2016) Discussion

[–] Scifi71 9 years ago

The king of Africa, which is why louis bribed him.

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[–] annseton 9 years ago

Then why was the dwarf killed?

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[–] Ghost_tem 9 years ago

The dwarf was the queens pet and it was obvious she relied on him for comfort. He was probably killed to punish her.

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[–] catnap222 8 years ago

I very much think it was the African king's as well. I don't see the negotiative power of taking him to the convent unless it was his baby. The dwarf had to be killed to cover up the fact that the baby's father could be anyone else. By rights Louis could have had the African king disgraced in front of his family and have ordered him killed for bedding his wife. Women had no power back the except for their sexuality. The queen's mistake was sleeping with a man of color. It seemed by the way she acted she was guilty when she was forced to receive him alone when he arrived.

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[–] JaneBingley 9 years ago

The Queen had a black baby. And no one gave any thoughts to who the father was. Because the father was Louis XIV. The baby was black because she was thought to have been scared by a black person in her pregnancy.

The baby girl became a nun, known as the Black Nun.

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[–] Scifi71 9 years ago

she was thought to have been scared by a black person in her pregnancy.

He gave her a "Penetrating look" as Louis said. ummmhmmmm.

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[–] silverwhistle 9 years ago

Another claim was that it was because the Queen drank a lot of hot chocolate…

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[–] jh66 9 years ago

It was the dwarf's baby.

The dwarf was killed topunish the queen. She was made to flirt with the African (or part of) King and - unless there was sex between them we didn't see- lull him into thinking that black babies survive and are accepted in France, unlike England or Netherlands.

This might win him over to side with France? As would the threat of the king's traitor being throttled in the woods threaten him into the same?

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[–] jerry6-1 9 years ago

it was ma bebee

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[–] HalfBloodPrincess1967 8 years ago

The baby was Louise Marie Thérèse (The Black Nun of Moret).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Marie_Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_(The_Black_Nun_of_Moret)

She isn't listed among King Louis children on his Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XIV_of_France

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[–] annseton 8 years ago

Wow, thanks for that. So, historically speaking, the father of the queen's baby was the dwarf after all but the series decided to go with the African king.

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[–] Gutch220 8 years ago

I just assumed it was the dwarf.
The other African King wasn't around 9 months ago.

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[–] CleardelaMoon 8 years ago

He had met the Queen before when she was traveling. That was the whole reason Louis forgave her and saved the baby, because she got the African King (Not King of Africa since it is a continent) to look favourably on her husband's offer. Then Louis took the king to see his daughter acknowledging that he shamed the King of France.

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[–] annseton 8 years ago

That's what I thought too. It's more logical that it would be the dwarf's. I guess they meant it to be ambiguous.

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[–] ktsparks 8 years ago

So unless I've missed "the" answer, we're nowhere nearer to the correct answer? One says it's the dwarf, and another said it was the African guy? So we still don't know for sure?

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[–] chicago85 8 years ago

The baby looked normal and the African king appeared to accept it as his. Yes, I know midgets can have non midget offspring.

I don't know everything. Neither does anyone else

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[–] sksolomonb 8 years ago

When the Prince of Senegal (country in western Africa) arrived a few months after the child's birth, there were "eye signals" between him and the queen that indicated they had been involved during his previous visit about a year (nine months before the child's birth?) before. So, I figured the Prince of Senegal was the father of the half-black child.

I also found it interesting to see the seeds and roots of so many happenings that would occur later in history. For example, the Louisiana Territory in North America was a French colony named for a King Louis. The African slaves who were imported into Louisiana were from Senegal, so here we see the alliance between France and Senegal that led to the slavery situation in Louisiana. Stories such as "Brer Rabbit" were folk tales from Senegal which the slaves passed down through generations and which were written and published by writers such as Arceneau "A. C." Greene of Louisiana.

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[–] EllysettaErimeaFeyreisa 8 years ago

The tv show made it seem as if the midget was the baby daddy. But then when the King of Africa came for a visit and Louis showed him the baby, it was only clear then that this was his baby. This show makes you think and is a bit cerebral.

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[–] robertsjason55 8 years ago

While it was implied it might be the Dwarf's baby initially, it was the African Prince/King's baby. The Prince and the Queen had spent time together previously and were exchanging seemingly intimate glances. And Louis showed the Prince the baby, saying that in England or Holland the baby, and mother, would have been killed. This was Loius saying I know what you did, and I'm willing to look past it, with a hint of I could still have both of them both executed (Louis had previously executed an old rebel Nobel in front of the Prince to make this point). The African Prince/King then quickly agreed to France's terms. If it hadn't been his child, the Prince's reaction would have been something like "Ummmm, that's a cute kid. Who's is it?"

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