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What idiot was in charge of the gun props?


They tried to explain that guy having an AK, but it's stupid nonetheless. You don't carry the enemy's firearm in a war; that's a good way to get yourself killed. Different firearms make distinctive sounds. An American firing an AK in Vietnam sounds like enemy fire, and is risking a hail of friendly fire in his general direction from people who can't see him but can hear his gun.

An even bigger WTF was Samuel L. Jackson's Colt M1905 pistol (or 1902 or 1907; they all look pretty much the same). What kind of out-of-left-field decision was that? He should have had an M1911 or M1911A1 obviously, because that was the standard-issue sidearm at the time and had been since before WWI. Those Colt 1911 predecessors were never issued by the U.S. military, were commercial failures (thus, uncommon), and unreliable/troublesome. The idea that a U.S. officer would be carrying one (I think he may have had a pair of them, no less) in Vietnam is absurd.

John C. Reilly's character had a commercial 1911 (as opposed to a USGI M1911 or M1911A1 like he should have had), manufactured in the 1980s or later. I guess he really was a time traveler.

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I took some screenshots of the guns for reference.

Cole's AK
http://i.imgur.com/zU6gukd.jpg

Sam Jackson's M1905
http://i.imgur.com/vOJtPzQ.jpg

John C. Reilly's 1911
http://i.imgur.com/sD0FHiT.jpg

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At least Cole's AK could be just a post war souvenir. Vietnam war just ended, this was their last trip. As Charlie wouldn't be on the island, why not having some fun shooting with the enemy's weapon?

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Rangers use op force weapons in combat all the time.

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op force weapons


Google tells me that's video game terminology. If you're referring to enemy weapons, then you're wrong. Enemy weapons would only be used in a last ditch, no other options, life or death situation. I suggest you read this thread:

https://www.quora.com/Do-soldiers-pick-up-fallen-enemy-weapons-to-use-if-they-are-out-of-ammo-on-their-weapons

Since you used video game terminology, the second reply is rather fitting:

"This happens only in video games."

I could add that it happens in movies too.

Also, here's one of the replies specific to Vietnam:

"A good friend who fought in Vietnam gave a good answer to this. He loved the AK and hated his M16, which kept jamming, and so considered using an AK instead. His platoon sergeant asked him, "Sir, out in the jungle, how do you know where to shoot?" He answered, "That's simple, I listen for the distinctive sound of an AK47, and...." Then it dawned on him, what would happen if he fired one."

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Just an FYI, Op Force/OpFor/Opposing Force is indeed a term used by the US military, however not really in this context.

That said, I thought Cole carrying an enemy weapon was a bit ham-fisted, but in a movie about a Big Monkey I can roll with it.

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You do know no one cares, right?

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Your non sequitur is dismissed, simpleton.

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Oooooo! Dismissed by a simpleton? How will I faith my clathmates? Go polish your firing pin, maggot.

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"Dismissed by a simpleton?"

Monkey see, monkey do, and also:

Reading Deficiency Alert (hint: you weren't dismissed, your non sequitur was, dumbass)

Also:

Comical Irony Alert

"How will I faith my clathmates?"

I have no idea how to "faith" anyone, Slow Doug.

Since you have no arguments regarding my OP, your tacit concession on the matter is noted.

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Reading Deficiency Alert: I didn't say what you dismissed, dumbass.

Comical Irony Alert: You should have recognized my cartoon quote but cartoons are too advanced for you, I'm sure.

I gave an argument, dimwit. You jack off to Guns and Ammo magazine but normal people who watch movies like this don't and don't care.

FYI, I fully support gun rights so no, I'm not a candy ass leftist.

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"Reading Deficiency Alert: I didn't say what you dismissed, dumbass."

Your post had nothing to do with that guy having an AK, or the M1905, or the 1980s commercial 1911, therefore it was a non sequitur, and non sequiturs can legitimately be dismissed out of hand. Also, the only source of non sequiturs of this type is idiots, which established you as an idiot, obviously.

Also, monkey see, monkey do, and:

Comical Irony Alert: Part II

"Comical Irony Alert: You should have recognized my cartoon quote but cartoons are too advanced for you, I'm sure."

This is another non sequitur, given that nothing I've posted indicates that I watch cartoons at all, let alone whatever one you're referring to. Also, monkey see, monkey do.

"I gave an argument, dimwit."

No, you didn't, clodpate, and:

Comical Irony Alert: Part III

"You jack off to Guns and Ammo magazine but normal people who watch movies like this don't and don't care."

Your non sequitur is dismissed, mooncalf.

"FYI, I fully support gun rights"

I doubt that, highly.

"I'm not a candy ass leftist."

Regardless of what you imagine your political persuasion to be, you're dumb as a mud fence.

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Wow! For all that verbosity, all you said is you're a nerd of the highest order, who drools in her pocket protector. You're totally outgunned (pun intended) and you should stop embarrassing yourself. A mud fence is Albert Einstein compared to you and the ironic thing is, you think you're intelligent. Walk on home, little girl.

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P.S. A wise man once said: "It all relates." But you're a cigarette butt so I'm sure you won't understand.

Now for another wordy bunch of nothing from our best girl, MaximumRecoil.

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LOL at you replying twice to one post, with nothing but non sequiturs no less (publicly declaring idiocy each time). Consider them dismissed out of hand and your tacit concession noted (again).

Also:

Comical Irony Alert: Parts IV through IX

"MaximumRecoil"

LOL at "Maximum" (Reading Deficiency Alert: Part II)

You + an idiot = 2 idiots

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Blah blah blah. I don't give a shit about your screen name, thus I barely glanced at it. My, you're a self absorbed tool, aren't you?

Pro-tip: Using a bunch of big words that people don't use in normal conversation, to sound intellectual has the reverse effect and just makes it obvious you're a pretentious twat.

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"Blah blah blah. I don't give a shit about your screen name, thus I barely glanced at it."

People who don't have a reading deficiency don't need more than barely a glance to read a five-letter word, mooncalf. Most people read about five words per second, without errors.

"Pro-tip: Using a bunch of big words that people don't use in normal conversation"

This isn't a "normal conversation", airhead, it's an argument, and since you've done nothing but clutter up my inbox with foolishness (due to you being far too stupid to form an argument of any kind), I have no further use for you. You're now on ignore.

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Oh noes!!! Not the dreaded pussy... I mean ignore setting!!!! You are an idiot and a pussy of the highest order. Good riddance. I was getting tired of humiliating you, anyway.

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Oh noes was spelled correctly? Comical irony alert!

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You don't get out much, do you?

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Welcome to the ignore list.

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Mur-DURR!!!

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It was a strategy in Vietnam to use AKs to try and confuse the enemy in terms of firing positions. Though of course this would have to be used very carefully to avoid FF.

I've also heard the flash hiders on XM177s were an effort to disguise the report of a 5.56 AR in Vietnam and make it more AK type but the sound and firing rate would still be distinguishable.

But yeah, some definitely strange firearm picks in this film.

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