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It seems so absurd they replaced Michael with David...

posted 8 years ago by coleburg83
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I know that's not what they say they did, but in reality, they got rid of Michael and essentially brought in a replacement non-love interest love interest for Selene to replace the role Michael would have had for the most part.

I don't get their reasoning that Michael would have overshadowed new characters. Selene is the main character and I don't see how Michael instead of David could have possibly somehow reduced the new characters, more like you would feel more of a connection to all the characters since they would interact with those who have been around since the first.

I feel like David is such a shoehorned character in his place and Michael's glaring absence is what overshadows the last two films. The whole time both these films I keep wondering "Where's Michael? When's Michael going to appear?"

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[–] Bigg_Bad 8 years ago

I think they did it because Scott Speedman who played Michael doesn't want to be in the movies any more. He has to my knowledge never said it directly, but seeing as the couple of Michael scenes that were in the last two movies were played by different actors dressed to look like him would suggest he turned down the role both times. It's a shame because I really liked the Michael character and really wanted to see where they would take his story.

[–] rushmoras 8 years ago

Well, they needed to replace Scott Speedman's character and this fifth installment jus cemented it that Michael is not coming back. As to why S. Speedman didn't reprise his role in previous films is anyone's guess. Perhaps, it's not his cup of tea...

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[–] ashydve 8 years ago

Yeah that just killed the vibe, stating that Micheal died was such bs I expected more since he was labelled as the first hybrid. They are many ways the Micheal story could have gone but killed him is such bs

[–] I_Created_U 8 years ago

Yeah and kill him in such a way on top of it is pushing the envelope a bit.

"No, I'm one of yours!" before being shot in the face... Really? The dude they sold us as being over-powerful and basically immortal? Begging for his life? Trying to talk his way out with an argument? Common now.

The always seem to do that in movies when the lead doesn't come back, they always find a slightly ridiculous way to explain his death. In XXX2: State of the union, they casually mention "oh yeah, Xander cage was killed in his last mission", period. Like "oh you didn't know, James Bond died last week attempting auto-erotic asphyxiation, now it's 008 Klaus Rubenstein". Right.

They pulled the same trick in the new Independence Day, Will Smith is said to have died in a freakin test flight... The guy almost single-handedly defeated an alien fleet in the previous movie, but in this one he missed a step and broke his neck taking out the trash. Well, why not? Granted, both movies would have sucked anyway, but that's not the point. It kinda seems to me they are trying to get back somehow at the actor who refused to re-enlist - for good reasons more often than not obviously, given the end result.

Anyway, Michael is just one of a long list of characters that have been killed off stupidly by writers because the actor portraying him refused the role. Not the first time, nor the last.

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[–] I_Guard_Tanelorn 8 years ago

I like the David character. I think it sucks they just swapped him out with Michael, but they had to do something moving forward. They showed a little too much of his death. I think it was enough to show Michael frozen in the chamber and they could have left it at that. I don't need to know how they got him, just that they did. They stated the Lycans were crafty, i'll buy they figured something out. Anyhow, they really wrote themselves into a corner with Michael. They made him way too damn powerful.

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[–] coleburg83 8 years ago

See, I don't get how introducing David and removing Michael was moving forward. That's the point. They just introduced an obvious love interest that isn't a love interest to play Selene's companion instead of Michael.

I disagree about how they made him so powerful. If anything, he seemed to not be nearly as powerful as they tried to say in the first two films. Viktor is beating him and nearly kills him when Selene kills Viktor and he gets beat and near killed by Marcus. He's definitely not like in God Mode at any point. The resurrection in the second film was mild compared to some of the crap later.

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