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Vincent and his GF

posted 8 years ago by sackofwhine
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Truly some of the worst and dumbest movie characters I've seen in a while. They truly annoyed me. How would anyone be okay with a cheating girlfriend? If this was supposed to be funny it completly missed the mark and felt out of place. Am I supposed to laugh at vincent not dumping his stupid, cheating and greedy girlfriend? It truly irritated me how everybody was okay with Vincents gf being unfaithful and letting her get away with it. The kid is black for christs sake! Don't get mad at your mother for telling you the truth you dumb c?nt!

[–] LarissaXX 8 years ago

You missed the point. He was crazy about the kid even ignoring the fact it was biracial. He was not okay with her cheating but was crushed when she dumped him when hè quit his job. Michele realized how much he loved the kid (and the family it gave him) and even defended her for the reason she dumped him.
That's why she helped financially. Girlfriend happy, son happy and Michele happy because hè was happy.

[–] Z-Tay 8 years ago

Happy being cucked?

Yeah, the propaganda coming out of Europe lately is ridiculous.

[–] VivienCastro 8 years ago

Why do you think its a propaganda? If anything, he is hardly a character people would aspire to be like. His girlfriend is shown to the viewer as a cheating user, and he is someone whom even his own mother considers to be an idiot. He does find some type of happiness in the end in his *beep* relationship, but its not something that any intelligent person would want for themselves. It was more about Michelle accepting that this is what he wants out of his life, as *beep* as it is.

[–] firstwinsgop-1 8 years ago

It was a bit heavy handed, I agree, but the whole point of that story line was a commentary on the migrant crisis. Verhoeven is demonstrating just how far down the path of insanity Western Europe has gone. We are disgusted by the son's attitude, yes. But how is he any different than Angela Merkel or Francios Hollande, who gleefully implement policies designed to carry out the genocide of their own people?

[–] dxben99 8 years ago

That it was certainly not. I don't think right-wing Propaganda has a place in a movie by Paul Verhoeven.

[–] Mina-Josie 8 years ago

It was more about Michelle accepting that this is what he wants out of his life, as *beep* as it is.

Agreed.

I don't think the film is supposed to criticize the number of immigrants in France at all. Verhoeven chose a biracial baby because that way it was easy to see that Vincent wasn't the baby's father. Michèle didn't freak out because the baby was black; she freaked out because Vincent didn't say anything and pretended the baby was his, and because she was asked to financially support a child unrelated to her.

I think that, as the time went by, Michèle realized Vincent cared for the baby. She criticized him when he quit his job because of some stupid reason, telling him that he had a family to support. In the end Michèle made peace with Josie and accepted Vincent's choice. My conclusion is that this also says that a parent is not a person that gives birth to you, a parent is a person that raises you.

[–] naples-884-346409 8 years ago

This is a film about non-traditional women and
dares to show types of women you usually don't see
in cinema.

Here it's not the loving, faithful wife.
She's cheating, sadistic, dominant &
frankly quite psychotic.

He is submissive and faithful,
just like women are usually represented in cinema.

Verhoeven switched the traditional images &
subverted them.

I wouldn't judge how 'realistic' this is - maybe men like that exist ?

But it's a funny subversion of stereotypes in cinema.

[–] prplayer 8 years ago

your mistake is expecting people to behave rationally in this movie

so many movies, so little time