...so therefore it's very niche and isn't designed to attract a mass audience. That's what people seem to not understand. This film was never going to appeal to everyone. Not every movie is produced to attract box office numbers.
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Possibly, but the time of year the movie was released indicates someone was seeking Oscar nominations and was hoping for far better audience and critical response.
sharePossibly, but the time of year the movie was released indicates someone was seeking Oscar nominations and was hoping for far better audience and critical response.
I never claimed she did.
shareI never claimed she did.
No, I did not.
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Whom else would you be referring to when you said "someone was seeking Oscar nominations and was hoping for far better audience and critical response"?
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Exactly - I said "someone", not "Jolie".
Yes you did.Attributing something to me I never said - I see truth isn't your forte either. share
And yet you still didn't answer the question:
Whom else would you be referring to when you said "someone was seeking Oscar nominations and was hoping for far better audience and critical response"?
Whom else would you be referring to....Well, as you yourself said:
Who ever distributes the film....Which may or not be Jolie - I don't claim to know and I never did. What I personally may believe is one thing, what I post and claim to be accurate is another. I never claimed or stated Jolie controlled the movie's opening date. share
Angelina had full control over everything else, of course she chose the award season for her flop to open! She totally expected big things go this movie otherwise she wouldn't have gone through all the promoting like her other movies!
shareAngelina had full control over everything else, of course she chose the award season for her flop to open! She totally expected big things go this movie otherwise she wouldn't have gone through all the promoting like her other movies!
Which may or not be Jolie
I don't claim to know and I never did.
What I personally may believe is one thing, what I post and claim to be accurate is another.
I never claimed or stated Jolie controlled the movie's opening date.
"Of course you didn't but it's insinuated[/b], especially when you say "...someone was seeking Oscar nominations and was hoping for far better audience and critical response." It's pretty much what others claim, the only difference is that they directly indicate Jolie and you don't. But [b]who else would you be referring to if not Jolie since she wrote and directed the film."
"There's no use continuing to brawl and waste time over this, if you say otherwise that's fine. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter if I believe you or not."
I've snipped the beginning of your post since it had nothing to do with anything and I don't need to waste my time with rubbish.
You even stated “...of course you didn’t( One thing is for sure. You are obsessed with diverting attention away from this dire movie and you contradict everything you say.
Jolie, like many in the film business, is just not good enough.
@grimdeath:
Jolie, like many in the film business, is just not good enough. She has no power and certainly doesn’t have the skill or respect to open a movie on her name alone. Get used to it. The movie, Unbroken, showed clearly that she is unable to effectively direct a film.
Okay, you hate Jolie, we get it, that's your perogative. But UNBROKEN was actually a pretty decent film---I haven't seen BY THE SEA or her first film, IN THE LAND OF BLOOD AND HONEY,though. My point is, I wish people would judge her films like they would any other director, instead of just slamming them simply because they don't like her. The fact that she's able to get any films made obviously shows that she does have some power in the industry---hell, you have to have a considerable amount of power within the industry to even get a film made. So to claim that she dosen't is really ridiculous. If she was a male actor directing films, you wouldn't claim that she "has no talent" or "is just not good enough" which is a bunch of BS. I happen to like her work myself, and wouldn't mind seeing this film because I love arthouse films anyway, and because she wrote/directed it. Apparently, her haters think that she should have stayed in her lane and stayed an actress and just looked pretty, instead of expanding her talents into other fields (which male actors do all the damn time, including becoming writer/directors.) That's just some more sexist bull****,that's all.
And,duh, of course this an arthouse film-----male directors make arthouse flicks all the time that aren't box office hits---so why sweat Jolie for making one,too? Give it a rest.
Lol, the Sony leaks that when published in full on Wikileaks, BACKFIRED on Rudin and made him look like an idiot and most entertainment commentators said Angelina came out looking really well? *Those* leaks? No one the Anistonloonies stopped mentioning Rudin and Sony after that. They hate that Angelina came out the winner. No wonder most of the seasoned Anistonloon trolls never mention that. I wonder why. Lol These psycho dangerous and deranged Anistonloons cling to the Rudin comment as if it was Mana from heaven!! Lol, a man who has no credibility, who has the highest personal staff turnover of anyone in the industry, who sexually harasses colleagues and abuses them. And that is their 'source', their final 'proof', their mana, that they CLING to. How desperate and sad! ahahaaha Oh how sad. Don't forget, Aniston is a terrible actress has never been nominated for an Oscar, cannot direct, and has no respect, reputation or ability to open a movie with her own name. So your hypocristy and desperation is amazing, but says it all about you immoral and unhinged psychoAnistonloons.
shareIt's been over a decade, let go of the silly feud. All who were personally involved let it go years ago. All three are talented and have fans. I've liked and disliked some from each. I still though can't fathom how some of the fans ever blamed Jennifer Aniston. Her husband and his co-star got together. She didn't do anything wrong. I'm glad they're both now remarried.
This movie though of which this board is dedicated is awful.
Who??? Who is this movie's audience? Who??? Just a vanity project.
shareHonestly I do believe the audience for this movie is fans of Jolie and Pitt. Without their names being connected to it I doubt the movie would have generated even the small ripple of interest it did.
shareHonestly I do believe the audience for this movie is fans of Jolie and Pitt. Without their names being connected to it I doubt the movie would have generated even the small ripple of interest it did.
This is not an art-house movie and the fact that people say that is an insult to true art-house movies. If you so desire to call it an art-house movie than go ahead, but it is to be told that it is a very very very BAD art-house movie!!!
shareIt is an art house movie so get over it. Whether you like it or not is your business. I couldn't care less if you think it's bad.
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It is an art house movie so get over it.Let us all bow down to the Queen of All-Knowing, for she has spoken and issued her irrefutable words of wisdom.
I couldn't care less..........and rest assured, we don't either. May we humbly suggest that you get over yourself. share
SMH at these responses. Oh well.
shareHey Artie, that guy is on my ignore list, so I'm not fussed. When I read all his posts on other forums and discovered he picks fights with almost everybody, I put him on ignore. It seems he's still trying to pick a fight with me -- which proves he's nothing but a pathetic sh!t-stirrer stalking me on the "By The Sea" forum which is below the pathetic line and in loserville territory.
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Do I argue when I debate or discuss with others? Absolutely. Guilty as charged. The thing is, I believe arguing and debating opposing viewpoints and opinions is honest, and even more civil, than the route you take. Yes, I also go overboard many times. Guilty as charged – but it’s usually only when I’m dealing with someone like you.
To me nothing is ruder than disagreeing with someone by using a smug, self-righteous, condescending attitude. When someone differs with your opinion you don’t discuss or debate, you merely dismiss them as being “intellectually inferior” to you. How very obnoxious. You don’t tolerate opposing views, you just demean and ridicule them because your opinion is the only correct one – the only one that matters.
Don't be so cranky, sweetie. April is only a few months away, and you'll soon have a new season of Outlander to swoon over, and you can go back to living on that board 24/7.
And he's still responding to me....! You do realize that you're on my ignore list, right? Give it up a@@wipe, I don't care what you have to say but obviously you're obsessed with me! You have to be some kind of douche-bag to respond to someone who put you on their ignore list....Get a life!
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It is a wee bit pretentious and not a very successful film, but still, I don't know why it's considered a far worse cinematic crime to make a failed arthouse film as opposed to a successful blockbuster based on a stupid video game. Why is it worse to shoot for a critical award than for $1 billion at the global box office?
And I don't get the "vanity project" thing. It's obviously not autobiographical or particularly flattering. There's no reason an actress can't write or direct a movie.
It might be the same phenomenon where people on the IMDB have no problem with being blatantly obnoxious and insulting, but any PERCEIVED "condescension" is somehow beyond the pale. I think some people just have a intellectual inferiority complex, so acting stupid and obnoxious is OK, but acting smart (or smarter than you in fact are) gets them overly upset.
"Let be be finale of seem/ The only emperor is the Emperor of Ice Cream"
True...all of it true.
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Except no respectable art house cinema would show it.
Yet it fails to evoke the emotions and feelings of the audience. Art-house my ass. I'm sorry but this was a HUGE failed flop. They were so trying to make it French-type of feel, with the scenery etc. but it falied at that - the script was crap, in fact the acting by both Pitt + Jolie was utterly flawed too....the French actors were the ones who kept the movie interetsing. Americans will never be good as the French when it comes to REAL cinema.
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