Banned in Melbourne
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/26/the-red-pill-melbourne-cinema-drops-mens-rights-film-after-feminist-backlash
What an absolute joke!
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So, you going to see it?
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As to the security precautions - they have been forced to introduce them by an extremist group which caused the cancelling of the previous screening - isn't it feminists who have complained about "victim blaming"?
I am from Central Europe and I am glad that such extremism has not (at least for now) taken roots in my country. As to the alleged "frustration", I would certainly feel frustrated if such situation happened in my city with a movie I would like to see.
I wonder how you would feel if the screening of your "Wonder Woman" was cancelled due to the pressure from, for instance, Islamic fundamentalists.
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That sounds like a lot of empty rhetoric. Do you have a link to the actual study he draws these numbers from? The report has no sources and I am not an Australian citizen so I haven't the faintest what he is talking about.
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I actually found the source for his statistics trying to look up materials for the Royal Commission. It is from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, http://d3bo5ucoqkgs8h.cloudfront.net/CxGHj/3/. That does not mean they are the culprits of actual violence under the dictionary definition of the word however. Australia is very liberal with its application and there isn't much of a consensus on just what that definition is. It also may include not just threats as well but also nonviolent coercion like seclusion, forbidding them from seeing friends and family, or withholding support. http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/4906.0
I feel that they may have poisoned the well when they came up with the wording of the report. They spend the vast majority of it focusing on women, who may be the majority, but call for its application to pretty much everyone. "Prevention efforts must be targeted to all forms of family violence, such as elder abuse, violence against men, including gay, bisexual and transgender men, and violence used by young people in the home." This is ironic as going by the trailer of The Red Pill, this was something that one of the MRAs made a similar statement on the same subject. https://youtu.be/HK7n_XA40V8?t=5m47s
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I talk to many people that work in Women's shelter and guess what? The Women that have suffered domestic violence are often perpetrators themselves.
Consider the experience of Erin Pizzey. The first person to set up the world's first Battered Women's shelter who then, over the years, began to notice that almost all of them were violent themselves ie causing a lot of trouble in the shelter by assaulting other Women or bragging about assaulting their Husbands and getting away with it. She went public wit this information and, surprise surprise, started getting death threats from guess who? Militant feminists. Feminism is not about equality, its a hate group focusing on the advancement of Women at the expense of Men who ironically too poor to have any patriarchal power whatsoever over anyone, let alone Women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
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I hope that people who automatically trundle out the domestic violence statistics involving Female deaths only, also think about Male deaths and think about how both genders cause this in the first place in order to solve it, as opposed to just blaming Men and being largely unconstructive.
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... are you trying to cause circumstance for a false rape allegation??
I get the sense you are trolling here.
I hope that people who automatically trundle out the domestic violence statistics involving Female deaths only, also think about Male deaths...
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Not at all. A males life is expendable and disposable compared to a females and not as worthy. Since it likes to get promoted that the evil that man does is more pronounced than a females, then we just have to take the medicine and swallow it without much ballyhoo.
Males aren't allowed to whine and complain about how they can be mistreated and abused, not only by other males, but by other females as well. It's just not cool. If a female is painted as anything but a holier than thou, sweet cherished soul, it becomes salacious and a non-entity. We can't malign females over vile and wicked men, it's just not a "truism". They will never be sexist, misandrist or chauvinistic sows. Not to mention how females can be the biggest misogynists regarding their own gender.
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Basically what it's come down to is that modern women want us men to just shut up and do as we're told, because women know best... for them and us. They want to turn the tables on men who were unknowingly doing this to women all of those years... because men are evil.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.
So is this all about revenge then, with a large helping of control? I wish they would just shut up, and if I want a feminist's opinion I will ask for it.
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I am not familiar with the Australian reality, but such statistics tend to be misleading. For example, I wonder how many men were killed in family-related violence at the same time. Providing numbers out of context, without reference to the details of methodology, information on how the data was gathered and interpreted, etc., tells us nothing. If politicians refer to such figures they nearly always do so to fulfil their current political goals and not for any other reason.
Anyway, whatever the current political climate is, it does not justify the cowardly decision to cancel the Red Pill screening. I hope that the cinema chain which did it will lose lots of viewers and the movie will only receive more interest and attention. It deserves so, because it expresses attitudes of many people who are usually silenced and points to the problems which are otherwise ignored.
As to making a fantasy character an honorary UN ambassador - it only points to the fact that the organization has largely become a joke.
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And I'm sure that you would like to equally highlight the plight of around 100 000 men who are known to experience violence from their female partners, not including the additional men who are believed to suffer from female instigated intimate partner violence but are too ashamed to seek help. Not that any help is available for them.
I'm sure you would agree that the more than 50 men who are murdered by their female partner every year (again, it's a known fact that male victims of domestic violence are murdered at about half the rate of female victims).
No, of course you don't.
You already said.
You are a feminist.
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Why do you need to identify as a "feminist" though? Can't you just identify as a human being in female form, which comes with it's attributes, imperfections and challenges. Same as with males. What does this identity do or prove for you? It is compartmentalizing yourself into some deluded and phony ideal that represents either a superior attitude over males—which many feminists accuse men of doing—or just endorse how resentful of men feminists really are and how bitter they are within themselves.
Men are not going to change their behavior towards themselves, other males or females, just because 'feminists' think they should. Men have been men throughout time and history and feminist just need to accept them for the way they are. Men aren't trying to change women, they don't need too. They don't need to take a step backwards. It is women that are attempting to step up and still can't quite fit into the mould they would like too. Too bad!
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Why identify as a feminist? Comradery.....blah, blah, blah...
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Comradery? For what cause, to undermine and demean men. All that other blather you have posted is to prove how insecure you really feel as a female in the presence of men. Nice how you have acknowledged men in your rhetoric, as though to prove through this disclaimer that you really give a s<>t about men's rights. You don't really and it sounds phony.
You identify as a "feminist", because you want to men to see how strong and resilient you really are in the presence of the almighty and positive male and yet you still can't compete and never will. You think you are special because daddy told you so. Well guess what, he was lying and spoiled, primped and pandered to you. Your father sounds "less" of a man for endorsing your bigoted and biased movement.
Those that marched the streets to lobby politicians for the your social rights etc, has nothing to do with you being a feminist. Those were rights for all citizens and both genders who have been oppressed by both women and men in power and influential positions. You being a feminist is inconsequential and unimportant.
Oh and by the way, I identify as a MASCULINIST because I was raised by a father and society who insisted I be no less.
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Yes, I am already aware that you are stupid and are deluded and in denial. I didn't expect you to acknowledge what I was saying, even though it has pushed your buttons. I don't buy into your bulls<>t either. Do many, apart from your prejudiced and biased warped demon femisisters?
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Men can marry financially independent women, they're a dime a dozen now days, thanks to feminism...She was encouraged to further her education, land a great job and save her pennies, opportunities her grandmother didn't have back in her day.
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And women can marry financially independent men, they're a dime a dozen also, thanks to Masculinism. How do you know it's because of feminism, that these women are fiscally buoyant? We are all a product of our time and something that was going to happen with or without feminism. Don't give yourself that much credit for your deluded and deranged movement.
Feminists have been ridiculed over the past century and still are. If you now have equal opportunity, what else and what more do you want that you don't already have as women? Many of you are already acting the roles that men have done and still do and it makes no darn difference to how selfish, self-serving, self-entitled and narcissistic people are. YOU ARE JUST GOING ABOUT THE SAME BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE ACCUSED MEN OF. And not all women want to be feminists and career orientated. They appreciate and enjoy men and don't need to put themselves up on some fake and wobbly pedestal. My, what a big crash you will all make when you fall.
You are compartmentalizing to the arrogant, competitive and egotistical women in society and speak as though that is what all women should want. You're grandmother's may not have wanted the same opportunities you do. Don't speak for the deceased, it was a totally different time and era and men were oppressed too by the royals and ruling class. All it is now, is women wanting to keep men down by controlling them and thinking that they know better than them. How so?
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You're like that crazy b!tch that talks to herself while pushing her shopping trolley around the park. Well you will be when your husband leaves you for another man, because he will be fed up with your warped feminist and misandrist ways. Is that you in your avatar? You look like you are in love with yourself or if not, you wish it was you. Another stark raving looney narcissist. The world is getting overruled by them.
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I will tell you what I don't like, and that is your username Nina. It is one of the most femme and b!tchiest names one could come across for a female, Nina666. Brrrrr It suits you perfectly.
You don't come across a genuine nice woman to me and you are full of yourself, your pseudo-intellectual academia mind and your femme important specialness. The fact that you are even married boggles my mind; because I can't imagine any decent male with a good sharp head on his shoulders even wanting to be with you. Oh yeah, for one thing only. You are still being used by men dear. Why else would they bother with you?
Then again, there are many dense and simpleminded men out there that need to be mothered and women like you can control and MANipulate them and play second mommy to them. I don't even want to imagine the kind of person he is, to want to be with the kind of prejudiced and bigoted femiwitch you are. You can't even "realistically" address what eqaulities you don't have in today's western society, except come up with more hollow rhetoric and anecdotal statistics that are misguided and don't represent the whole complete picture. Just call yourself a feminist if that makes you feel that you still deserve more than you already have, and yet forget that it is men that are the ones pandering and offering it to you, in a feeble attempt to shut you up.
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I don't care how Russian it is, there are still feminist b!tches in Russia. I have known some Russian girls, and they are as selfish, spoiled, self-entitled and controlling of the rest of them. Perhaps they cornered the market on feminist b!tchiness
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Russians are the biggest homophobes around, no doubt most of it perpetuated by females, as it is everywhere. Females are stupid, ignorant naive creatures when it comes to males and what they want out of them. Why are you deflecting the topic away from your identity as a feminist? Renounce and then I just might be civil.
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I have already commented, you are a spoiled narcissist. If you want to be equal to men, then man up and admit that you have been told the way it really is, or is it just so much easier for you to into denial and keep playing your childish games of how special you think you are. You think you have to stand for something as an ego mind based ideal, to give you a sense of purpose. The reality is, you are absolutely clueless. The other truth is, you don't care, as long as it is all about you. Another narcissistic trait.
You can't even answer direct questions, but play devil's advocate to deflect. What is that all about?
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Yeah, you bigoted veiled homophone; but there is plenty wrong with your phony, warped and idealistic feminist movement. Honey, you are not as "special" as you believe yourself to be and no matter what you want to believe, others can see how transparent, narcissistic and fake you really are. You are undermining your own movement by acting like a tramp in your avatar and just begging for men to pay you attention.
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So now you are spreading homophobia? Seriously go *beep* yourself you ignorant *beep*
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Liking Linklater does not make up for your GOTIS crap. You are ugly as. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Girl%20on%20the%20Internet%20Syndrome If you have nothing to contribute maybe you could feck off
sharenice ad hominem. If you have nothing intelligent to say, maybe stop posting, it just further illustrates your ignorance and divisiveness.
shareHow can men trust a woman not to throw them out of the house as deadbeats when they are fired from their jobs? On the flip side, it's a big no-no when you throw a woman out of the house for being unemployed and most men respect this social guideline. If you understand hypergamy, women always want to marry up and they will hardly ever marry below their social status. It's been proven throughout history that a lot of men don't really give a sh!t about class structure as much as women.
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If you understand hypergamy, women always want to marry up and they will hardly ever marry below their social status. It's been proven throughout history that a lot of men don't really give a sh!t about class structure as much as women.
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So if this is a "truism" with many women, then what does this say about their agendas and intentions regarding the men they choose to be with in their lives? They aren't marrying for love, but for comfort and that is just another arrogant and narcissistic trait many women possess. Their so-called standing as nurturing and caring creatures of the earth comes with a condition. Another scourge on the feminist cause and shows that more women will use men for what they can provide, rather than men using women for what they provide. This Nina creature is an absolute twit.
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Call me optimistic, call me delusional, call me a dreamer but I still firmly believe that in the right environment, women can truly love and honor men. I have to. I'm an unashamed heteronormative male and I refuse to die alone. BUT this, a society where women are given everything, having their asses kissed all the time, put up on pedestals - spoiled fcking rotten is not the right environment for women.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.
Looks like dying alone is the only option, unless one is willing to follow the herd and just put up with the bulls<>t.
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bit of a difference between suffragette movement and power feminism. When was the last power feminist rally? Slut walk?
shareThis is an unparalleled time for women in Australia. Activists are battling against sexual, physical and emotion assault with a fervour not seen before
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Nonsense! Crazy feminists have always been jumping up and down on the bandwagon in history. The Suffragettes, The Burn Your Bra Mob, Vile Valerie Solanas and her Scum Manifesto and all to achieve what? What is it that women want from men? To tell them how to think and feel and control them? I'm sick and tired of hearing about all this domestic violence s<>t that is an attempt to malign men and other men are buying into it and maligning themselves. Typical of a politician to use this as a platform of diversion, so the "real" issues become a distraction. Hollow, ass licking rhetoric and all to pander to abusive, deluded and bullying women who want to hear it.
No matter how much fervor women use to whine and complain, there will ALWAYS be "some" men that will smack their b!tches around—ladies, take some onus and responsibility for the men you "choose" to get with—and there will ALWAYS be "some" women who will smack their b@stards around. The difference is MEN DONT'T TEND TO COMPLAIN AS MUCH AS WOMEN. Women have become spoiled, pampered and privileged members of society and think that MEN OWE THEM SOMETHING. Why?
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The difference is MEN DONT'T TEND TO COMPLAIN AS MUCH AS WOMEN.
That's because they have always had all the power and privilege, ignorant moron. share
No, it's because they are not pumped full of estrogen and are physically stronger and don't need to be placated as much, like spoiled and naughty bratty children. Men have always been more powerful and always be, unless they keep up the apathy and keep giving their power away to females and all for pussy. Stupid ignorant creature.
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80% of women are sexually harassed by the age of 17.
Identical resumes will get more call backs if they have a male name on them than if they have a female name.
These are rational bases for complaints, idiot. I could name more, but you are obviously so deluded that no amount of logic will ever get past your thick skull.
80% of women are sexually harassed by the age of 17.
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80% of women are making false claims of sexual harassment.
Identical resumes will get more call backs if they have a female with big breasts attached to them than if they have a male name.
These are rational bases for female manipulation and sexual flaunting to get men's attention and too get ahead. I could name more, but you obviously so deluded that no amount of logic will ever get past your thick skull.
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80% of women are making false claims of sexual harassment.
Thanks for establishing that not only are you deluded about objective reality, but that you are also a complete scumbag.
Thanks also for showing the quality of person who shows up on this board defending the movie. You are the ideal ambassador for the MRA movement. share
The only phony, warped, deluded and deranged individual on here is you. If men are scumbags, then women are whorebags.
Nice that you can have your little feminist women issues and clique; but oh no, men cant' do the same. What a phony, hypocritical, vile and nasty windbag you are. No wonder feminists are ridiculed and despised.
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You may find this clip interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_zMYeUrgfk
Thanks for posting that link. I will watch more on what Latham has to say. Using domestic violence as a ruse to distract the herd from what is really important and pandering to spoiled and deluded women in society by promoting fear of what men CAN do, is sending out false and misleading information and making it out to be something more than it is. What about what women DO to men and their own violent tendencies? Of course they get a free pass for feeling so insecure and needy for men in their lives and it is always the man's fault.
Even that female anchorwoman was getting hot under the collar when she was hearing something she didn't want too. Yes, 1% is not plaque\epidemic proportions and where do women start to take responsibility for the men they CHOOSE to get with and what about their own vile attitudes? What is the government doing about addressing the violent crimes that are stemming from the low socio-economic areas? Poverty and fiscal struggle has always been a breeding ground for violent crime and most of these people who are breeding, haven't got a freakin' clue what they are doing to their own children and are desperate.
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80% of women are sexually harassed by the age of 17.
Have you ever had a sexual relationship with a real woman, Faustus? I bet you think a man hitting on a woman is sexual harassment just because she says it is, just because she's so disgusted that an unattractive man is hitting on her. How the fck is any guy supposed to know that a girl will be so disgusted by him? Men are not psychics. Then again, what one-sided organization keeps instilling hate and fear of men in women by continually highlighting all of the flaws, real or not throughout history?? Thanks to feminism, men and women are more socially fcked up than any time in history.
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Faustus is a chick I think and they are one warped and deranged individual. Don't expect any reasonable or flexible response from them, because they have it set in their mind about how things are, yet they are as confused as a feminist at a picnic, and no-one has made any sandwiches.
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I'm addicted to arguing my point, trying re-educate the stupid.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.
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shareMelbourne's screening of The Red Pill has since devolved into a clandestine affair replete with frustrated men, security guards and secret handshakes
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Pulling a screening of a film for political reasons is censorship. It was a stupid decision by Palace Cinema to succumb and pander to certain groups and pull the screenings.
shareThe Melbourne screening of The Red Pill in Australia has neither been banned nor censored. Palace Cinemas have made a commercial decision not to exhibit the documentary. There is no law stopping its distribution or viewing.
No, the cinema just receive a petition from people who haven't see the film, but don't want others to see it, and threats.
What's wrong with that ?
My guess is that is that they are probably the same people who stalked an autistic boy in Melbourne because some local feminist celebrity called him a creep
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830176/Man-Melbourne-tram-labelled-lowlife-creep-autistic-loves-giving-strangers-high-fives.html share
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(Ratings don't matter) LOL
shareThe Melbourne screening of The Red Pill in Australia has neither been banned nor censored. Palace Cinemas have made a commercial decision not to exhibit the documentary. There is no law stopping its distribution or viewing.
Censorship does not require a law. As per Wikipedia:
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions
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