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I will be shocked if there is no mention of Golden Age Hollywood


According to right-wingers, Golden Age Hollywood was 100% squeaky clean.

Don't right-wingers who make these stupid claims realize how close Shirley Temple could have been raped by the powerful men in Hollywood, or how Louie B. Mayer forced Judy Garland to take diet pills to look thin, or the possibility that Kirk Douglas might have raped Natalie Wood?

I will be shocked if this film ignores this, and acts like Roman Polanski was the first.

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Hollywood has been a city of avarice, neuroses, and unrestrained sexual appetites from its very founding in the silent era. It just attracts those kinds of susceptible people, and allows them to flourish in their degradation because there's always enough money and power to keep the mass deviance under wraps, enough cash and/or drugs to wipe memories and buy silence, and enough intimidation of weak-minded wannabes and their stage parents that everyone just turns a blind eye and issues denials years later, long after the damage has been done.

I love movies, but generally hate the kinds of people who make them. Not all of them (especially the technical craftspeople who make about as much money as your typical office drone, if that), but most, because you just KNOW this is the kind of kinky, entitled, self-satisfied gratification they get up to while simultaneously "reflecting" everyday life back at us in the products they make.

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I agree. If anything, there was even less protection for children back then than there is now.

I think Shirley Temple said in her biography that a movie producer or executive exposed himself to her.

Natalie Wood's mother even wanted her to go to a party with the Rat Pack at around age 14 or 15, and it sounded like she was sort of "pimping her out" to them.

Hollywood was NOT as squeaky clean as it portrayed, and the parents are often as guilty as the perpetrator.





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Well, I'm a right-winger and I've never thought the Golden Age was squeaky-clean. Sexual scandals and addiction touched plenty of greats -- Errol Flynn, Judy Garland, Laurence Olivier, Lana Turner, I could go on. When it comes to child molestation, that's something that we as a society never really started talking about out loud until maybe the 1970s.

If you want to get all political about it, I bet there are tons of examples of idiocy, hypocrisy, and vice that Hollywood lefties get away with thanks to excuse-makers and partisan hacks.

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"The Casting Couch" has always existed in Hollywood since the days of the silent films.

Manipulative casting directors taking advantage of hopeful men and women - promising career advances in exchange for sexual favours. This is bad enough but those that prey on the underage go beyond just plain sleazy. That's just pure evil.

Nowadays most self respecting casting agencies behave themselves knowing that inappropriate behaviour can land them in hot water but there are those that still lurk in the shadows and find ways around the system to get what they want. These are the rotten apples that need to be publicly shamed and driven out of the business.

Also studio executives who were either aware of what was going on or worse still participated in these horrific activities also need to be held accountable for their part as well.

Parents of young child stars also need to be proactive in what's going on and never allow their children to be alone in the company of an adult unless they are present or a suitable guardian is there who can monitor what's going on.

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They had an episode of Law+Order SVU where a producer guy flies in girls from around the US to be casted on a endless pool party he has on his premise; for movies that practically don't exists besides some lame treatment he wrote.
Which was not in hollywood but in some other state where some harsh rules of filming minors don't apply.

It was very uncomfortable to watch, but supposedly, as usual with Law+Order, quite close to the source materials.

The casting couch is still alive. There are enough third and fourth "direct to dvd/streaming" directors who always make a dime with their low grade shyt and thus, have an endless requirement for young girls (and boys) roles.










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Which "Right-Wingers" have claimed this? Can we get some names and quotes? If Ronald Reagan had ever made such an erroneous claim, then does it excuse Roman Polanski? Why not cut out the middle man and skip right to blaming Bush?

As for my own opinion, I can't watch Shirley Temple movies as I find them a little creepy and I can't shake the feeling they were made by pedos and marketed to pedos. I would assume the film industry has consumed countless young lives and it was far easier to conceal abuses during this "Golden Age".

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Google the Christian Toto article for Big Hollywood Breitbart titled "Is Polanski Syndrome to blame for...". Toto acts like Golden Age Hollywood was squeaky clean, and full of moral and decency, and when Polanski came along and did what he did in 1977, that was what changed Hollywood into the sick cesspool it is today. He also acts like Polanski was the first time Hollywood gave someone who did an immoral act a pass, and that Golden Age Hollywood NEVER did anything like that.

He did not exactly mention Golden Age Hollywood in his article, but given how Breitbart, and its readers and writers are biased towards that era of Hollywood, again, he acted like it was the first time Hollywood gave someone for doing an immoral act a pass.

So, according to Mr. Toto and people like him, it was Roman Polanski who invented the "Casting Couch".

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I read the article.

There's not a single word that implies anything about "the first time" Hollywood did anything.

The article is about how talented people in Hollywood don't criticize other talented people in Hollywood for potentially offensive behavior, excusing them because of appreciation of talent.

It makes zero assertions or implications that support your premise about anyone's take on the Golden Age in any way whatsoever. And if you disagree, please provide ANY content from it that you interpret differently than me.

Its irrational and baseless to claim otherwise, based on the article. http://cdn.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/07/01/baldwin-latest-polanski-syndrome

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According to right-wingers, Golden Age Hollywood was 100% squeaky clean.
They had fixers back then, think Ray Donovan and massively powerful studio chieftains.

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