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characters almost all have no redeemable qualities


Love the show, but damn every character is a piece of *beep* in one way or another with almost nothing that redeems themselves. Like Jay loves his mom and is a funny cool guy. but other than that everyone is f'd up lol.

"..I intend to live forever......So far, so good..."

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Good, there's a lot of people in life like that. ABC family shows can deal with fake cheery happy people.

Bitches, right?

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Yet I still like Ryan and want him to win. Just also want him to get over Lisa.

I still like Alvey and want him to be successful. But I want Lisa to leave him.

Love Jay. Wish he would stay clean. And hope is mother is dead.

Like Nate. Wish he could feel more confident, protect himself, and come out to his father. Keep his sex life private. And become the champion he's supposed to be.

And then there's Keith. Well, Keith is Keith. LOL

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That is actually the main thing I like about this show. I feel like TV networks have a tendency to create some of the most irritating characters. Simply because they feel that viewers need to relate to them in order to like them. Maybe it's just me, but I don't need to relate to the characters or have them be the best people in the world to watch it. You give me a set of characters that are dynamic and interesting, I will watch. Some of the best TV characters in history are not particularly the greatest people and/or they have few redeeming qualities.

These people are so f ucked up and have very few -- if any -- redeemable qualities, yet you still root for them. That, in my opinion, is a testament to how great the writing is. When you have almost an entire cast of characters that have very few redeemable qualities and you are still actively rooting for them and feeling their emotions as you go through them -- whether they are lows or highs -- that is some damn good writing.

Alvey is an alcoholic with anger management issues and let's be real, not the best father in the world. Somehow though, you still root for him to clean up his act and keep Navy St. successful. Jay is screwed us mentally because of his mother and has drug issues, but he has a funny charm about him that 1) brings comic relief to an otherwise intense show and 2) you want to root for this guy to have a successful relationship with not only the women in his life (mom and girlfriends), but with himself. Nate is timid at times, moody at others, and irritating the rest of the time, but you root for him to find himself, be confident in his own skin, and now, come to terms with the fact that maybe fighting isn't what he's good and to find a new passion. I could go on and on and on, but you get the point. These are some seriously f ucked up people with very few redeeming qualities, but the writers have created such dynamic, fleshed out, and crazy enough, sympathetic characters that it just works. It's what makes the show so amazing!

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Are you kidding? They're damaged people but they're real. Jay is a good person that got a raw deal with both parents. Nonetheless, he treats everyone well and tries to help people, even to his own detriment. Ryan has problems but how many people would befriend someone like Keith and continue to show him the kind of patience Ryan has? Or put themselves out there for him? What's wrong with Nate? He's trying to come to terms with his sexuality in a world that wouldn't exactly embrace it. What's wrong with Lisa? Because she's not bubbly and accommodating? I'll take realistic, damaged people over simplistic, shiny people any day, in TV and IRL.

"She hasn't even read the books..." - OursIsTheQueenInTheNorth

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