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Ep19: It had to happen...


Ava was killing Jay,I just hope he doesn't spiral out of control now and
gets back to business.I won't lie that scene made me very emo.

Alvey and the lawyer are great together Lisa needs to leave them the fck alone now and get on with her life,really not liking her this season so far.

I really thought Keith was going to kill Alicia,so relieved that he didn't.

9/10 for the episode.

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Great episode with lots going on. That hammer stuff though...

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Yeah Keith is gonna get killed by Ryan. That's a no brainer. Ryan won't turn him into the cops. And for real, Lisa, grow up and quit expecting everyone to run to your side to help u after u treat them like crap. Typical woman lol. Jk. But seriously, go away.

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Jay, with his search for love and family, will spiral out of control with the death of Ava.

Typical stupid men! Why doesn't this B leave Alvey alone??? what BS!!! Lisa needs to get a *beep* together? She had a still birth with a man who she had a relationship with for years. Alvey talks a lot about family but is never there when "family" becomes a priority. That confrontation need to happen with that self-centered bastard.

What I like about the show is that all the characters are complex, with lots of baggage, and are somehow tortured. When the show develops that, it's good. You all seem to want to cookie cutter sh*t. Drugs are bad, don't use them. Still birth, no problem, let's move on. Talk about family all the time but need to show up when family is important.

Lisa is def an integral part of the show. Alvey is a real self centred a-hole in all aspects, not just Lisa, but still think he's a good character for the show.
Keith is awesome too... totally unhinged. Ryan won't kill him but something will def happen.

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Javex - I agree. This confrontation with Alvey was needed and it was coming! What she said was true an legit!! Alvey was a straight up punk and he knew it!! Lisa will get her *beep* together, but she has a lot of anger/hurt/grief to work out and he should have been there for her. Ryan and Jay have been in their own way. I love her and Jay's relationship..its brother/sister & best friend type of deal. I was waiting for her and Nate to have a one-on-one.

Keith is awesome!! You never know what the hell is going to do or say!!

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I agree with both posters above. So sick of people talking crap about Lisa when she has been a HUGE part of the success of the gym. Honestly, the gym would have folded without her. You think Ryan came to the gym wanting to fight? No, he came there to be closer to Lisa. He thought if he stayed at the gym he'd slowly win her over because still to this day he is in love with her. He was forced to fight by Alvey but because of him off probation and Lisa there, he decided to fight. Jay, oh yeah, Lisa has been more of a parent to him than his own. She was/is his manager before Alvey even wanted to touch him as a fighter. She knows all Jay needs is someone to encourage him and to show him love. Why do you think Jay wanted to forget everyone and their *beep* and just go see Lisa when he found out she's back? Alicia, oh wait, Lisa found her, got her to the gym and wanted Alvey to train her. Alvey didn't even want to train her. Lisa had to force him to do it. And now they're getting recognition in the girl side of mma.

Lisa shouldn't have asked him for 25%, she should have said she wanted 49%.

Alvey is a POS and the only person he cares about is himself, no matter how much he tries to act like he cares about others, he doesn't.

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woooo boy that was a nutty episode. what a roller coaster indeed. I sort of agree with a poster above. saying it's going to be ryan that will take out keith. I could see it happening since we know he's capable of it however would he really do that for Alicia? considering he's already sabotaging her to prove he's alpha. I really enjoyed ryan but damn he's been a snake this last half of season. as for jay, holy *beep* man. that's a *beep* tragedy but he's easily my favorite character. he absolutely needs to overcome this. as for alvey, agree with above posters as well. that self centered douche needs to be realigned. I want to feel for him but he makes it very difficult.

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At the ending wtf does Alicia want from Jay ? Does she blame him for Ava's death? She did that to herself.

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