My god Alvey is literally the worlds worst father and I can't believe no one has called him on it. It was just plain sick the way he was encouraging Ryan to make sure his kid doesnt get out of the round. What the hell is wrong with him? I don't give a *beep* what Jay has been acting like. Thats his son and I wish Jay would tell Alvey to go to hell. Hell if Alvey was any decent father he would have made sure that fight never took place at that point.
shareAgree to disagree.
sharealvey wasnt there as a father. he was there as a coach. ryans coach. it was just a fight to all of them. and as ryans coach he was there to help ryan win, and he did, so job well done. did you also notice he wasnt smiling after?? and he did show concern for jay.
shareWhether he was there as a father or not that's still his son. You shouldn't be able to just shut that off. He went to check on Jay and that's it. Didn't go see him in the hospital and showed little regard for how he's been doing. He said earlier in the episode that he was worried about Jay but what did he do about it? Nothing. He knew Jay was in a *beep* place and went in there to help his fighter take advantage of that. In reality if he was a good father he never would have chosen Ryan over Jay and I hope Jay goes to train somewhere else.
shareAlvey obviously cares more about his business than his son and his well being. But that much has been evident from the beginning of this series
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I still love the character. He's an extremely flawed but fascinating character. It's just ridiculous how some people refuse to acknowledge the obvious. This isn't a good father or partner. He's not even a smart business man. None of these characters are flawless gems. That's what makes the show so engrossing.
"She hasn't even read the books..." - Elliot_Alderson
I always say to my husband I could never do what Alvey does. Train against his son. They didn't give exact background of their family. Other than they have a Junkie Mom and a self absorbed Dad. Alvey is my least favorite lead character.
shareWhy don't you get some therapy for your father issues instead of posting all these posts that Alvey is a terrible dad.
He's a terrible dad for giving Jay a second chance after he screwed up and allowing his girlfriend at the time to manage him and allowing him to train there for free since he's Alvey's son? From what i can see Alvey is a decent father. He gave Jay a second chance while holding him accountable for his past actions.
I guess you think a good dad is some wimpy dude who lets his son get away with everything without saying anything and coddles and writes him love letters all day. The father's role in life is to teach responsibility. The mother should be the nurturing one to balance that out. As it stands, Jay's mother is a druggy whose actions didn't care about Jay by her own admission. There was an entire scene dedicated to Alvey's concern for Jay with Lisa and he didn't visit him in the hospital that night b/c he wanted to give him some space after losing. Plus he probably thought Jay would be asleep from the injury, pain pills and exhaustion of the fight.
Why don't you get some therapy for your father issues instead of posting all these posts that Alvey is a terrible dad.
Thank you! I have a great dad which I why I know that Alvey is a *beep* dad. Bottom line is there are a few dads in MMA that train their kids and I don't think any of them would coach their sons competitor against them. That's brutal.
shareI don't know the first thing about that world or how common it would be for a parent to train someone to beat their own kid but I think the show has let us know on numerous occasions that Alvey wasn't a good father to his boys. They've pretty much said Lisa was the only good parent they had. To ignore that is to just ignore that layer to Alvey's character because someone has a crush.
"She hasn't even read the books..." - Elliot_Alderson
"The worlds worst father", hell no... Too many *beep* fathers out there for this one to be worst. But, a *beep* dad, yes, although, not for the reasons you gave. Not to mention that his son is a *beep*-up, and most of the damage was done by his wife... I have a feeling that people think that getting beat up in a fight is something that fighter hates the most, and that it's a big deal for them. I can tell you from experience that it's not. That's one of the easiest things to cope with. Unless it's not a serious injury (and you would be surprised how little of those people get from fights), losing a fight is like loosing in any other discipline or sport that you care about. And for the fight, maybe it shouldn't have taken place, but it's a job like any other, and that's the fighters decision alone, and maybe his manager can have some say in that. But Alvey telling Ryan to finish the fight has nothing to do with him as a father. In the cage, he is a coach, his son is a fighter, and they are there to take care of business. It's not something that most people can do, and his situation is uncommon to say the leas, but if you want to be a coach, you have to be able to look at it like that.
shareAlvey's a bad father, but not because of the fight. The fact that he never bothered to help Jay with his addiction issues till now is what makes him a bad father. And Nate's fear of Alvey not reacting well to his homosexuality has to stem from somewhere.
shareAnd Nate's fear of Alvey not reacting well to his homosexuality has to stem from somewhere.