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The structure of the story (or lack thereof)


Overall, I thought the movie itself is okay, doesn't reach the brilliance of the first one and doesn't match the zaniness of 2 and 3, it's pretty much on the same level as the 4th one, although I do like the lore-building aspect of that one better.

However, one thing I thought was very clever about it, was the structure of the film. It kind of reminded me of Cloud Atlas.

It picks up right where the fourth one left off, albeit some time has passed. But then, it starts jumping between all sorts of different "realities" and "universes", while still telling the same story, just in alternate timelines and different variations of it. I thought that was very creative. Phantasm has always been a series where the filmmakers' ambition is aces higher than the budget they have and it's wonderful.

I completely get why that threw a lot of people off, it hurts the coherence of the story quite badly and it could have definitely used a couple more drafts and some trimming, but overall, I thought that aspect was genius.

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Good post, and good summation.

I would have preferred closure, some answers, and ONE storyline where we knew what was REALLY happening vs. what was in Reggie's mind or Mike's mind. I started another thread about our favorite scenes, and it made me realize that there were a LOT of cool, memorable scenes. The story itself is confusing and lacking, but a few of those scenes will stick with me.

The Horse.
Reggie and Tall Man isolated in the white room.
Reggie's poignant death scene with the boys.
Jody's return.
Rocky's return.
The Tall Man said something about Reggie's gun like "Your toys cannot hurt me." Loved that line.

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loved the pure b movie fun of this this is a pure fun b movie easily better then the boring 4

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Phantasm Oblivion beats Ravager for introducing us to Jebediah Morningside alone.


You can't palm off a second-rater on me. You gotta remember I was in the pink!

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