I can see if she had a girl putting her last name as Villanueva but Mateo is obviously a boy and
I was hoping she was going to be nice and put his very last name as Solano. As of right now, he's the only son right now of Rafael and he's the only chance of carrying on the Solano name. I just thought that was kinda mean....
I know his name is Solano Villanueva but he'll probably go by just Villanueva
Lol, it's amusing to see how Hispanic naming traditions confuse the hell out of people.
Naming him Solano Villanueva is THE proper way of honouring the Solano family name. Latinos carry both their father's and mother's surnames, with the father's coming first and the mother's usually dropped in casual dealings. This system is really cool cause there are never any problems of 'carrying on the family name'.
There is the consideration of Rafael not being Hispanic, but they covered similar issues well when they were bargaining about the name. He is lucky Jane didn't completely drop his surname as they're not married. To avoid bureacratic confusion for non-Hispanics due to the child being born in the US, they can just hyphenate it as Solano-Villanueva.
Curious, do you happen to know in which countries this convention applies?
Misidiotaicy - the dislike of idiots.
The hyphenation or the double surnames? The latter applies in every Spanish-speaking country. To make things even more confusing, women sometimes add on their husband's surname if he comes from an important family, after their 2 other surnames with a de or da connection (seeing as there is no tradition of women taking the husband's family name over there). Her children then end up with 3 surnames as it becomes part of their maternal name.
A good example of this is Jaime Camil's full name: Jaime Federico Said Camil Saldana da Gama. He has a first name (Jaime), 2 middle names (Federico Said), his father's surname (Camil), and his mother's surname with the attachment (Saldana da Gama). This would indicate that his mother's ancestors were at some point connected to a notable family with the surname Gama.
What can I say? Latinos LOOOOVE long names!
Boy I'm confused. I get the mother and father part. So Mateo would be Solano-Vienueva. But what name does Mateo's kid get? Solano hyphened with the mother's name or Vienueva hyphened with the mother's name?
Personally, I think the mother's name should always be kept cause you know the mother was really the mother but you don't know for sure the dad is really the dad (mom could have slept around).
Lol! Thanks for explaining this. I never knew the husbands came first! I wish the two Latinos I hired would've told me this in HR onboarding and explained! I see it on and off and get confused which to use u til I get their social security card and see.
shareI'm Latina and my mother's maiden name comes first in my name. I've always gone by my dad's last name though. I didn't even know her maiden name was a part of my name until she gave me social security card/birth certificate at 16 when I was seeking employment.
shareThat's not always helpful. When I worked at a tax office with a large Hispanic population we kept getting IRS rejects saying the taxpayer's name didn't match the SSN record. We had them bring in the card and it matched what they gave us. We then had to get them go to the SS office & get a printout. The SS office assigned the father's surname as their middle name & the mother's surname as their last name. You wouldn't be able to tell that by looking at the card though.
shareShe did that because it's all about Jane. The bane!
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