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INSIDER WORD: "NOT 'Cancelled'."


Isa Gunther‎ to Heroes Fans Unite
5 hrs ·
VERDICT ON REBORN. NOT "CANCELLED"
Before I go any further with this, I would like to remind people about one thing: 95% of shows that get cancelled do not come back at all. I can think of about four other sci-fi/fantasy shows that got cancelled and came back, and they are Star Trek, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, X-Files, and Doctor Who. All things considered, we are in DAMN good company with the Reborn. Also, as a reminder, The term "cancellation" doesn’t apply to a mini-series that airs all its episodes, which this iteration of Reborn will.
Now, as to the truth or falseness of the rumor, this is the answer we got from someone who works on Heroes (not NBC, the show itself).
"It was always designed to be a closed-ended [mini-series event]. It doesn’t mean that sometime in the future there won’t be another iteration of HEROES. It doesn’t mean the franchise is gone. It only means that HEROES REBORN [as a mini-series event] is ending as intended. Bob Greenblatt left the door open if Tim wants to do another volume."
Meaning: yes, the Reborn is ending. It was always intended to end. HOWEVER: that does not mean there may not be more. Even NBC states that the door is still open for another "mini-series event," if Kring is up for it. As for whether Kring is up for it, well, it's Tim Kring. Draw your own conclusions on that.
So. In short, yes, this story will end. That does not mean there won't be any more ever. It may be another few years, but the door IS STILL OPEN more another miniseries or event.
Take heart, Heroes fans. To quote Monty Python: "we're not quite dead."



so yeah, she's taking this as "maybe one day...."

Realistically? Maybe if NBC sends it off to syfylys or something, or simply waits out Kring and revives it after his death, we'll get a DECENT follow-up, which Reborn has been anything but.

Right now, I see it as a mercy killing. It no longer had that naive charm, much less any muscle compared to the current Marvel and DC TV shows.


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Crap is cancelled. Nothing to see
Here. Move along.

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Yeah,

When I first found about that they were doing Reborn, I was excited, but after episode one I was let down. But I still decided to stay with it since I stuck with it even in the original's Dark Ages (Heroes Season 2 and 3), hoping it would get better.

But it didn't get better. I have to confess, I didn't expect it to quite to be the level the original's Season 1, but I was still hoping for some sort of moments of excitement/firepower that was still in Seasons 2 & 3 (even though the writing was a mess during those seasons).

The show just felt boring in most cases, with very few brief parts that were good.


I agree with what you've said about it no longer having the muscle of those Marvel/DC TV shows. I have watched/am currently watching the following:

- Marvel's Agents of Shield
- Marvel's Daredevil
- Marvel's Jessica Jones
- Arrow
- Flash
- Supergirl
- Constantine
- Gotham


Sure, some of the above shows are better than others, and some are considerably lacking in quality than others, but even the shows which are a bit lacking in quality, I do still find considerable moments which I still enjoy (and also, as matter of fact, some shows have gotten better in quality as they went through seasons).

Reborn felt nothing like that. It felt like a lot of what made the original (especially season 1) series was no longer there, and some weird things were replaced in (one of which was the Katana Girl, why was she even in this in the first place? The whole time they spent on developing her as character, who wasn't even an EVO at all, they could have spent developing other existing characters, or some new characters with some pretty cool powers).


I don't know.....Maybe if they fired Kring and replaced him with Bryan Fuller (since he's part of the reason Season 1 was so successful, and is known to write quality work), maybe they have a chance. But I just don't see that happening.


Maybe instead of trying to beat a dead horse, they should just leave it be - like you've said, mercy killing.





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Reborn had a lot of potential but sadly never lived up to its hype.

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Constantine was cancelled but the guest spot that Matt Ryan did was well-received and caused a ratings bump so I have a feeling we'll see him again.

Gotham is a guilty pleasure I'm watching just to see if it can get any worse.

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While I'm sure Matt Ryan and the Arrow production team would like him back, Guggenheim is quoted as saying "not likely" due to the various legal loopholes they had just to get him on.

of course, they just announced Grant Gustin will be jumping over to CBS' Supergirl as Flash, so....??

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CBS does own The CW and Greg Berlanti is the producer on Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl so that probably explains why the Flash/Supergirl crossover is happening.

It's pretty funny, there are a bunch of fans over on the Gotham board who are obsessed with it crossing over with/being set in the same universe as Arrow and The Flash.

Ignoring that it's on a completely different network and takes place in this weird time warp that seems to be a combination of the 70's, 80's and 90's with a little early 2000's mixed in. I get that the version of Gotham they're portraying is supposed to be a depressed slum but surely the rich citizens could afford modern computers and smartphones if it was set during the contemporary era.

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Isa Gunther‎ to Heroes Fans Unite
1 hr ·
OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM TIM KRING
“I want to sincerely thank all of our fantastic ‘Heroes Reborn’ fans for watching our latest volume. Our entire team here couldn't be more thrilled that you are going to finally get to see the series finale tonight -- the biggest episode ever in the ‘Heroes’ saga to date. I’ve said from the beginning that ‘Heroes Reborn’ would be 13 episodes long, with a beginning, middle and end. I know word has been circulating that ‘Heroes Reborn’ has been ‘canceled,’ but I want to assure you that tonight’s finale is exactly the ending we’ve had planned from the very beginning. I’ve also stated that if there was going to be more story, it would not be part of ‘Heroes Reborn,’ but rather some future volume with a brand new story. Let me just say clearly for the record — the ‘Heroes’ universe is designed to be large and multi-platformed. ‘Heroes Reborn’ alone now includes six novellas, a series of comic books from Titan Publishing, and our two new games ‘GEMINI - Heroes Reborn’ (on Xbox now, releasing on all other console and PC platforms next week) and ‘Heroes Reborn ENIGMA’ (available on mobile and tablet). I think you will see that tonight’s final episode clearly leaves the door open for us to tell more stories within the ‘Heroes’ saga. We would be honored if you came along for that ride with us when we do. Until then I want to offer my heartfelt gratitude to the many fans of ‘Heroes’ and ‘Heroes Reborn’ for your loyal and unwavering support. Stay tuned. There is more to come.”
-Tim Kring
Some points to note:
1) This message is directly from Tim Kring. Not his agent. Not the Heroes PR department. Not NBC. Kring.
2) Though other major news outlets will be picking it up, Kring is speaking directly to the Fans. He gave the information directly to the Vox as well as TV Guide.
3) Note the bold and italics. “When” we tell the saga, not “if.” “There is more to come.” That pretty much speaks for itself.


not sure what she's talking about with "bold" and "italic" words, as this was straight PLAIN text.


I had a 16oz sixpack of beer and pizza ready to go...then I found out the CW has the premiere of DC's Legends of Tomorrow on opposite this trainwreck.
guess which one I'M watching instead.

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Willow Polson‎ to Heroes Fans Unite
10 hrs ·
No more posts about "Season 2" or "cancellation" or "What would have happened if it hadn't been cancelled." Posts of this nature will be deleted without warning.
1) Reborn was always a mini-series,
2) You can't "cancel" a mini-series,
3) Only Tim fully knows what his next move will be
4) NBC has left the door wide open for more Heroes
5) Unless you are one of the writers or producers for the show YOU DO NOT KNOW what was discussed about the story or future stories, stop stating opinion as fact and stop posting articles about it.

LOL

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It is cancelled, because ut sucked. Thats it.


Also, Buffy was never cancelled. So whats up with that.?😐

--There is no spooon

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It wasn't cancelled. It ran its run. You can't deal? What's up with that?

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