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Timeline Question

posted 8 years ago by dsten32
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Overall I'm not unhappy with the series, its entertaining. I haven't finished it yet so maybe this is explained (highly doubtful), but why does Noah going into the past change anything?
It is clearly what happened originally or Nathan and Malina wouldn't have been teenagers in the first timeline. So as far as I can tell, everything was just fulfilled, not altered. And yet Noah comes back to a changed present.
I get that him shooting Erica changed things, but since this is presumably the same set of circumstances (at least in my head) it doesn't matter.

[–] Brainlock2 8 years ago

It's a closed time loop for Noah to go back and have Hiro and Angela take the twins back to raise them in the past so they would be mature enough for the finale in the present.

Yes, it did have consequences (aka "butterfly effect"), as his decision to try and kill Erica turned out to wound her and push Gary (Henry Z/whatever his name was) into her clutches as a double agent. This meant he survived his death just before Noah went back, and somehow, so did H-Bomb.* Those are just the main CONFIRMED changes we were shown, there may have been others.

*(whether H actually died to begin with was argued to death already. some say yes, he died. some say he tricked Noah into believing it, either by mental manipulation or the unnamed shapeshifter that works for him now, and always survived. People are also questioning whether Mohinder survived as well, as the flashback is the last we see of the real MS. Erica also has a 'shifter that is shown flubbing his lines as MS to make the "gene terrorist" video she released to the world minutes after the bombing.)

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FU Kring

[–] dsten32 8 years ago

"It's a closed time loop for Noah to go back and have Hiro and Angela take the twins back to raise them in the past so they would be mature enough for the finale in the present.

Yep, that's my point, so I don't understand why there might be "consequences".

[–] Brainlock2 8 years ago

because if he doesn't go back, then the twins are still babies when the CME/flare hits, and Erica wins.

and Earth gets wiped out, according to Kring, who never took a science class to save his life. 

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FU Kring

[–] dsten32 8 years ago

The "consequences" appear to be: The Haitian and double agent dude are no longer dead.
And (though I'd have to go back episodes to confirm this wasn't always the case) Erica now has a limp.

So of course he has to go back, the entire season is predicated on it, but he also seems to want to have it both ways and have him going back "change" things.

But as you imply, consistency/accuracy/general ineligibility are not Kring's strong suits