Nudity is only funny to idiots (deleted OP)
Hey, I deleted the OP because actually it was only a copy of my comment on another person's thread titled
"On how one simple detail can destroy the whole movie"
Interestingly, the two people who responded to my comment agreed with my statement concerning how I felt the nudity was out of character & a rather feeble attempt at comic relief.
So you can see why I felt people here (namely texas mike & his compatriot) might be nitpicking on this thread. Why did I repost the reply on its own thread? Dunno. Just seemed a fun enough subject to reiterate & discuss.
I hoped people would realize the title (a line taken from the original reply) is meant to be a sardonic joke. It suggests that there are children in the audience laughing at nudity. Are children idiots? LoL... well, maybe not. But this works for humor. Like Cosby's "dain bramage" joke, or the line from the Little Rascals movie "You're not people. You're kids." You're supposed to not get offended by the word "idiot." But instead, see it as a crack. Which is a double entendre, hence sardonic humor. ... Is that asking too much from the reader?
Note: TxMike is a right-winger troll who has followed me around in the past, posting negative responses to whatever I write about. So you can imagine my dismay when he showed up again. (put on 'ignore')
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Then later..
I thought this thread would become dead when I deleted the OP, but apparently not
so..
Here is the OP
((( which was a reply to the thread titled
"On how one simple detail can destroy the whole movie"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3553976/board/thread/264056196?d=264255899#264255899 )))
On a personal note.. IMHO the one brief scene which ruined, or at least started ruining the movie for me was when Ben (Mortensen) is standing nude in the bus door while senior citizens are walking past. Not that I have a problem with nudity. I don't. It just seemed unnecessary, forced & not really in character, for three reasons: 1) he appeared to be a serious personality who wouldn't have wasted his time freaking a couple of old people, 2) he's mostly dressed in every other scene, including when they are living deep in the wilderness, so why suddenly the nudist? 3) on two occasions he tells his young daughter to put her clothes on after she was seen nude outside. So, it turns out this is supposed to be comic relief, as became apparent when the daughter scolded her dad after by telling him to "wear clothes for dinner." This lack of seriousness is finally explained on wikipedia, where it states how production meant this to be a "comedy-drama film." And here on IMDb it specifically styles the film as "comedy, drama, romance" in that order. Apparently, the producers meant to make a light family comedy-drama. Which (again IMHO) pretty much ruins the point of this otherwise well made film documenting some of the serious controversial issues that challenge an American family when they've chosen the path of complete independence of thought & action over socially fitting in with the norms of society. Because there is nothing worse than watching a cop-out. It's like the producers are telling the establishment "Don't worry. We weren't really serious about all this survivalist, dropping out of corrupt society, honest & intelligent stuff." Which is a lot like so many hippies (1960s-70s) who copped out & hypocritically turned into yuppies (1980s). So then, the question becomes: How do you bring comic relief into a film like this? Which brings us to this point: Nudity is only funny to idiots.
..and here are the two agreeing replies from that thread (copied)
"I watched this movie on an airplane from tokyo to chicago and they left the nude scene in, which i thought they were supposed to edit that stuff out. I agree with your personal note."
"Agree with the nudity, too. As so well explained, Dad seemed well balanced enough not to need to expose himself. Obviously we all know the female and male anatomy, but we also know that we live in a society and we must follow at least some basic rules. Dad knew as well, otherwise all the family would run around naked all the time, since there is nobody in the forest.... But they wear clothes, for several reasons. Although perfectly "normal" and nothing to be ashamed of, the sight of naked bodies should be left for more appropriate circumstances"