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50,000+ #SaveSelfie tweets and 20,000+ petition signatures in 11 days

posted 10 years ago by Aspie_McAsperson
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I can't recall the last time people were so outraged about a show's cancellation. When will ABC start listening to the people?

Petition
http://www.change.org/p/abc-save-selfie-3

Twitter stats
http://topsy.com/s?q=%23saveselfie&window=m

[–] james-liam-gallagher 10 years ago

But the ratings were dreadful? Presumably these 20,000 people watched, the problem is that the other 300m Americans did not! A passionate but small fanbase is meaningless to ABC.

[–] Aspie_McAsperson 10 years ago

But the ratings were dreadful? Presumably these 20,000 people watched, the problem is that the other 300m Americans did not! A passionate but small fanbase is meaningless to ABC.

The ratings weren't completely dreadful and actually better than several established comedies on other networks. The social media outcry only proves that the show's fanbase is far larger than the 3.7 million TV viewers measured by an antiquated system. Millenials simply don't watch shows on TV.

[–] workingdee 10 years ago

Does the network include online viewing in their ratings? I don't have standard television and only watch through HULU. I know quite a few people who only watch shows this way. I hope they are factoring that in when they look at the ratings.

[–] Aspie_McAsperson 10 years ago

Does the network include online viewing in their ratings?

No, they don't. Networks still rely heavily on Nielsen ratings (which measures the TV viewing habits of a tiny sample of U.S. households). It's terribly inaccurate in an age where people watch shows on their computers and/or devices. I also watched "Selfie" on Hulu.

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[–] MissKaron 10 years ago

Hulu+ has commercials and they are usually relevant to the day you watch something, not the day the show originally aired.

The rating system has been broken for some time. People watch on DVR, Hulu+ and other devices, so the networks need to get with the times!

having said that, Karen Gillan just tweeted that Hulu+ is going to show all the episodes.

[–] Madeline5 10 years ago

Neilson sent me a form to fill out for the end of October into first week of November, and I wrote down that I watched "Selfie" On Demand, and wrote down that it was a cute intelligent show, unlike so many others. At the time I didn't know they were going to can it from abc. It was the best comedy on tv, alongside of South Park (in a different way.)

[–] IsoldeJaneHolland 10 years ago

I've never had HBO, so the only way I've ever seen John Oliver's Last week Tonight is online, but I quote it and post links. That should count. Surely some clever Nathan Silver out there can come up with a formula to translate internet hits and links into a reasonably accurate total viewer count.

[–] b_b_pinky 10 years ago

I've never had HBO, so the only way I've ever seen John Oliver's Last week Tonight is online, but I quote it and post links. That should count. Surely some clever Nathan Silver out there can come up with a formula to translate internet hits and links into a reasonably accurate total viewer count.

The problem is monetizing alternative methods views. Since you don't have a subscription, HBO isn't making any money off of you. Maybe you watch a YouTube commercial before the video, but there isn't much money in that.

So while other methods maybe more accurate, there just isn't any incentive if they can't make money off of it.

Broadcast networks are dependent on people watching something live because the advertising revenue is where they make the most money.

The fact that people have alternatives and are unwilling to do this is why broadcast networks are dying. We're in the middle of this revolution, which is why shows like Selfie are suffering this fate. Eventually, all quality programs will be on Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, HBO, etc. Had this show started in one of these other places, this would not even be an issue right now.

[–] Final_Hitokiri 10 years ago

Does the network include online viewing in their ratings?

I don't believe so.

And what is sad is, Hulu+ is a paid service and both Hulu and Hulu+ have advertising that certainly demonstrate a show is profitable.

[–] Final_Hitokiri 10 years ago

Not just millennials.

A lot of folks no longer succumb to the TV schedule and watch shows on their own time.

[–] fidgette 10 years ago

Netflix needs to air it instead. Online networks are the future, ABC/CBS/NBC will fall by the wayside because they're dinosaurs in their thought process. Nielson ratings are inaccurate.

[–] unitbob 10 years ago

This. F%$# ABC. You need to petition Netflix to save the show, or Amazon. HBO is going to online subscriptions next year, so they will soon be an alternative.

[–] IsoldeJaneHolland 10 years ago

The finale was so good, but frustrating. Eliza singing Chandelier was heart-breaking.

[–] trial_user 10 years ago

So, what's the latest on this petition? Is ABC going to change their minds and resurrect Selfie or not??

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[–] synd05 10 years ago

I watched it every week on Saturday Mornings on demand or online. ABC needs to count all those views as well. I don't have time to sit and watch on weekdays, I'm a busy working, single mom. I signed all the petitions and just as outraged as everyone else.

I am so upset!!!!

Monkeyslut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] simian_ninja 10 years ago

Signed it from Hong Kong. I'm pretty sure there's gotta be a world wide fan base somewhere not just in the US.

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