'Moana' is a feminism done right. - Moana (2016) Discussion

[–] carrot_handvo 8 years ago

No. Moana isn't feminism at all.
Paul Feig did Feminism right, because that's what feminism is: Stupidity and Man Hating.

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

No, it isn't. Feminism is not about women being better than men, but in having equal rights, nothing more. It's about fairness for everyone - men, women, and others alike.

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[–] rc1990 8 years ago

What if she had a love interest ? That'd be the same thing ? --'

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

The same thing as what?

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[–] rc1990 8 years ago

As being a good feminist character. Belle, Pocahontas, Esmeralda ,Kida,Meg, Mulan, Anna.. To name a few were good. Nothing new here.

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

I'm still a little confused. Having a love interest is the same thing as being a good feminist character? Is that what you're saying? Isn't having a love interest a separate description from being a feminist? They could exist at the same time or not, such as having a love interest and being whatever a non-feminist is or having a love interest and being a human. Trying to make sense of this. Is there something I'm missing?

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[–] rc1990 8 years ago

Ha.. I'm saying the exact same thing. People are acting like Moana is the first feminist gal in Disney's history. She's not. She's human and equally interesting. However, she's not the first heroine to be like that.

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

Ah, ok! Thanks for clarifying.

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[–] LadyMiraculous 8 years ago

Moana is feminism done right.

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[–] TheMountainThatRides23 8 years ago

I have problems with how incompetent Maui was for most of the movie. I don't think Disney would make a female character the way they wrote him.

However, for the good, I REALLY enjoy the fact that Moana was being set up to be a leader and there was no mention at all that she was a girl. She isn't a ruler "despite the fact that she is a girl." Everyone just accepts it. I would love to see more strong females written like this.

"The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister."

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

I have problems with how incompetent Maui was for most of the movie. I don't think Disney would make a female character the way they wrote him.

Why do you think that is? Could it be because of all the years of women being portrayed as helpless and incompetent in our entertainment?

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[–] Block-Busted 8 years ago

Actually, you could also argue that Moana was pretty much helpless early in the film. You could tell that she was pretty bad at sailing. In other words, both sides had to learn from each other.

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[–] thenmadewild 8 years ago

Yea, it's not like she was perfect. She made mistakes, and later on she even becomes convinced her entire mission was a mistake.

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[–] carrot_handvo 8 years ago

Our entertainment was just mirroring real life. With women being in helpless situations. I don't know where you're getting incompetent from though.
Also women don't dream of rescuing men, so it can't exactly be reversed.

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Our entertainment was just mirroring real life. With women being in helpless situations.

Sure because men were always rescuing damsels in distress. Action movies never mirrored real life.

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[–] grrzelda 8 years ago

Also women don't dream of rescuing men, so it can't exactly be reversed.

Clearly, you've never read fanfic. The rescue trope (a female character rescuing a male) is very common, and fanfic is overwhelmingly authored by women.

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

Oh, but you can't say this because it doesn't fit the narrative of the men-babies, where women are all evil femi-nazi's out to take manhood away!!!!!!!!!!!

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[–] duh-prezident 8 years ago

But women are helpless and incompetent in real life. Portraying them so is only doing justice

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

But women are helpless and incompetent in real life. Portraying them so is only doing justice

You're joking, right?

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[–] duh-prezident 8 years ago

Not really

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Not really

Then your perception of women is warped.

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[–] duh-prezident 8 years ago

How exactly so? It's obvious that they are inferior to men in almost every way, I fail to see how my perception of women is warped.

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

Troll in the dungeon!!!!!!

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[–] duh-prezident 8 years ago

White knight coming to slay the troll?

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[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

You missed the reference. You are missing a lot and you are behaving like a troll.

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[–] duh-prezident 8 years ago

Thought that was a reference to Harry Potter book 1 at first, apologies if I am still missing anything....

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[–] andrewrrrr 8 years ago

When was the last time you saw a helpless and incompetent woman in any movie, let alone a disney movie?

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[–] Stokes83 8 years ago

Elsa says hi. They play the exact same role to the heroin.

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[–] TutuAnimationPrincess 8 years ago

Can we please stop with the feminism topics already, I'm tired of seeing them on every board. It would be very detrimental to my film watching if I constantly worried if a film is "feminist propaganda" or was bothered because "a woman wasn't respectfully represented". Both sides need to just leave movies alone, there's a lot of them out there so just enjoy what you want to enjoy.

"If life is getting you down and needs uplifting, then please come dance with me!"

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[–] TheMountainThatRides23 8 years ago

I am interested in hearing your thoughts on why Ariel is the best Disney princess.

"The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister."

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