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Newest Foreign Numbers are Strong

posted 8 years ago by Zaphenzo
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So, with Moana opening in a couple of big territories this past weekend (Germany, Italy, and Australia), foreign numbers are definitely something to watch. So far, of those three, Italy is the only one that's been tracked, which showed a strong 3-day of $1.7M. We will have to see what the 4-day is, but trends have shown big jumps from Sunday to Monday for most movies, so it's definitely encouraging!

Also, a home run from out of nowhere, Moana opened to a ludicrous $1.89M OPENING DAY (NOT weekend, just Christmas day) in Peru of all places!

Looking forward to getting the numbers from Australia and Germany. Australia should be in extremely soon since it's already the 28th over there.

[–] QueenFanUSA 8 years ago

Zaph...c'mon...please! $14.5 million isn't that great when you are talking about all of the international markets for Christmas weekend.

I guess we can all hope that maybe Moana crawls to $500 million WW. That's barely breaking even when you consider the marketing costs.

Again...maybe it explodes in Japan later. I'm not holding my breath, though.

[–] troyplafond 8 years ago

In just about every international market, theaters are closed on Christmas day, and a good chunk close early Christmas eve. So it's that much for half a weekend.

[–] Syrngfsse2 8 years ago

This has to do 600 milli9n worldwide to break even.

[–] Zaphenzo 8 years ago

No it doesn't. Stop with the made up BS. We all already know it's as credible as me saying Sing would have to make a billion to break even.

[–] troyplafond 8 years ago

No, it doesn't. You just pulled that number out of your ass.

[–] L0GAN5 8 years ago

$500 million ww is a lock. If it performs like the last couple of Disneys in Japan then it is odds on to pass $600 million. It looks like it will finish somehwere between Big Hero 6 and Tangled to me, which will be a solid showing.

[–] Hold_the_door 8 years ago

This ^

[–] L0GAN5 8 years ago

So much for crawling to $500 million. It is going to reach at least $550 million from its existing markets with Scandinavia and Japan still to come. The only question remaining is whether it will crawl to 600 mil or whether Japan will propel it over the line.

[–] QueenFanUSA 8 years ago

Korea is not doing so hot so that could be a bad sign for Japan.

Korea went bonkers over Frozen, but seem to be walking away from Moana.

It did "crawl to 500 million, btw. It finally crossed it two full months after it's release.

That's a crawl.

[–] L0GAN5 8 years ago

No it's not. It's called a staggered release. This film is likely to get to 600 mil, and that is not crawling to 500 mil.

[–] Zaphenzo 8 years ago

South Korea posted a $4M opening weekend. That is very solid. It did not crawl to 500 million. It being two full months after its* release is due to its staggered opening. It opened very recently in South Korea ($4M opening), Australia ($2.8M opening with constant gains up to $14.6M so far and barely slowing down), Brazil (increasing a $4.6M opening to an $11.8M total so far after only a week), Germany ($1.4M opening with constant gains up to $12M, and not slowing down at all), Italy ($1.7M opening with constant gains up to $14M), and New Zealand ($713k opening with constant gains to $3.8M). And still has Argentina, Turkey, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Japan to open in.

So with over $60M earned in the last three weeks, with many territories still fresh on their runs and many territories still yet to open, it did not "crawl" to over $500M. It is already well over $500M, with $550M basically a lock, and $600M still very possible.

[–] corazonbandido55 8 years ago

Didn't realize there was still so many outstanding markets. So it looks like Moana will do numbers similar to "Tangled". That would be a successful run.

[–] WeirdRaptor 8 years ago

This is why you don't listen to cretins like QueenFanUSA.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf

[–] Hold_the_door 8 years ago

Well, it's having great legs everywhere it has opened - including North America - so... Seems like it could reach $550M without Japan. Then, Big Hero 6 and Zootopia made $70M plus in Japan, so if Moana ends up the same, it will end up with more than $600M.
There's also the chance of it getting close to Frozen's $250M Japan total... I wouldn't really bet my money on that, but... Who knows?

[–] Ginger87 8 years ago

Thanks for the update! Glad to see Moana is doing well in some other territories. Peru's numbers are especially impressive.

*All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.*🎭

[–] pale_dog 8 years ago

I'm looking forward to see how it does here in Brazil. Just a couple more days.

[–] QueenFanUSA 8 years ago

OMG...did it flame out in Germany, too? It opened last week and I haven't heard a peep about it. Also, it appears to be flopping in S. Korea...a country that's normally receptive to Disney Princess Musicals.

[–] QueenFanUSA 8 years ago

It did flop in Germany...hard! It only made 1.7 million opening weekend.

For a comparison, Sing made 13.1 million on it's opening weekend there.

Sad.

[–] Ginger87 8 years ago

For a comparison, Sing made 13.1 million on it's opening weekend there.

I'm just curious, where did you read that Sing made $13.1 million opening weekend in Germany? Because according to Box Office Mojo, Sing only made $4 million opening weekend in Germany, and as of 12/25/16 has only grossed $10 million there.

*All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.*🎭

[–] QueenFanUSA 8 years ago

Ginger...my mistake...I mistook it's culmative gross as it's OW gross. Still, 4 million is more than double Moana's 1.7 million opening.

Australia seemed like it was finally going to be a country where Moana was going to excel but Sing is kneecapping it there as well. Deadline reported yesterday tbat Sing has pulled 12% ahead in that market even though Moana has been out longer.

[–] corazonbandido55 8 years ago

Rule of thumb is that for a film to start making a profit off of the box office itself, it has to double its budget plus marketing costs. So if a film has a $150 million budget with $100 million is marketing, then the film has to make $400 million to start profiting. So if Moana can at least break even, then that will be good so that it can start profiting off DVD/BluRay/Digital sales and merchandising (which is a Disney strong point).

Anyone know what Moana's budget was? I'm sure it was no less than $130-150 million.

[–] igfsda3 8 years ago

It's actually a 300 million marketing and production budget. Has to reach 600 million to break even.

[–] ma3337 8 years ago

Impossible. Source?

[–] igfsda3 8 years ago

Common knowledge idiot.

[–] Zaphenzo 8 years ago

Fake numbers that were pulled out of your butt are not "common knowledge", kyrchs.