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Is Romeo supposed to be allegorical?


I just can't figure him out or his purpose, especially with all the crazy s^it he is constantly saying. It's obvious he is a good person. But why, for example, did he fu^k up Clair's Velveteen Rabbit Book? My mind isn't grasping his purpose. And, the bottle caps? What was that??

I just wasn't made for these times. (Brian Wilson)

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*Contains spoilers * I also had a difficult time understanding his role & purpose in the story. I have to say his storyline bored me to death; I couldn't care less for this character & I thought about quitting watching the series because of him. It appeared to me while watching the scene where Claire discusses the book he "created" that maybe he was also a victim of sexual abuse as a child. In that scene, Claire asks him how he knew about the "dragon" and "Jimjo", which is why I arrived at that conclusion. However, during the scene where Romeo returns Claire's broken phone that she threw after a conversation with her brother, she asks him if he heard it, & I recall thinking that now he knows her secret. Regardless, he obviously connected a lot with Claire, & I thought he felt he needed to protect her, like a knight, which is why I think that when he went looking for her brother, he wore his "armor" made of bottle caps. I would also like to know others outtake on the Romeo character, as I had difficulty understanding it.

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*Contains spoilers* I forgot to mention this in my post above - in that scene where Claire is looking through Romeo's book, he expressed concern, one can even see fear on his face, at the possibility that he could be the dragon. Is common for victims of sexual abuse, particularly children, to feel they are responsible for or provoked the attack instead of the perpetrator, so I can see Romeo being tormented by the thought that there's something wrong with him, that he could be a monster.

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He is the observer. He is the cast offs of our society who become invisible to us as we pass them on the street. But they see us. He lives on the roof and in the gutter where we never look. He sees all. Like an avenging guardian angel. His coat of bottle caps is a brilliant metaphor. They are the evidence of our society, the cast off garbage which he makes into his coat of chain mail. In killing her brother, he absorbs the evil that her brother represented. He's a fantastic character, and I bet Damon Herriman wins a few choice awards for his performance.

God made man because he loves stories. —Rabbi Nachman

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thank you for explanation. a little too esoteric for my wee brain to have understood.

I just wasn't made for these times. (Brian Wilson)

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I hardly think you have a wee brain! And it's not esoteric at all.

Bad television has made us a culture that's lazy. It's been dumbed down not because people are dumber, but because the systems like the networks have tried to regulate imagination and creativity. It's too hard to do focus groups on creativity or imagination. So, we are out of practice in thinking metaphorically.

Except for one thing -- our subconscious minds only think metaphorically. If you dream of a bird, it's likely to mean something to do with flying, or freedom.

Meaning, in general, is found through metaphors and we use them all the time without realizing it. Romeo tells Bryan in the last scene that he didn't understand that Bryan wasn't Jim-Joe at all. Who do you think he means by Jim-Joe? Remember, Bryan was wearing his military service jacket when Romeo first spots him in the beginning.

The glass in her ballet slippers was a metaphor. Paul wanted to remind her where all of her strength & brilliance came from... from surviving her past. She eats the glass as a way of saying, "I get it" and "*beep* you" at the same time. It was a metaphor that had everyone squirming in their seats it was so visceral.



God made man because he loves stories. —Rabbi Nachman

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While dream analysis is highly subjective, the consensus is that: "Land stands for what the dreamer knows for sure. The air, on the other hand, represents the dreamer's thoughts, including gossip, praise, criticism, worries and even fears. The birds, as creatures that live in the air, represent thoughts that may have eluded us previously, becoming clearly conscious to us." I think that your view on the meaning of dreams is too literal and your view on the series is too metaphorical.

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I think that your view on the meaning of dreams is too literal and your view on the series is too metaphorical.

Dream interpretation is entirely subjective. While there are archetypes that extend across cultures, your bird, or land, or bottle cap is not someone else's bird, or land, or bottle cap. Your examples of land or air do not mean the same thing to me by a long shot. There cannot be a realistic or accurate "consensus" of dream symbols for this reason.
Strictly speaking, Jungian archetypes refer to unclear underlying forms or the archetypes-as-such from which emerge images and motifs such as the mother, the child, the trickster, and the flood among others. It is history, culture and personal context that shape these manifest representations thereby giving them their specific content.
{Wikipedia Jungian Archetypes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes }

Likewise, interpretation of metaphors is also very subjective, but in literary tradition, the observer, (as I've identified Romeo to be) is a 'voice'. For example, when a writer begins to tell a story, she/he has to decide what 'voice' will tell the story which will establish the point of view -- will it be the omniscient voice; the one who knows what all the characters are doing, thinking, etc.? Or will it be a narrating voice? Will the narrator be the main character, telling his own story? Or will the narrator be a friend/relative/etc. who tells the story about the main character? Or will there be several points of view? We're getting into the fundamentals of writing here, but it's important that the writer establish this from the very beginning. Each voice has its limitations and its abilities. The same is true in film/TV.

Trust me, the writers of F&B thought long and hard about the symbolism of the characters because they tell a deeper story, especially someone like Romeo, who is an observer, both in character and archetypally.

I do not think that I've been 'too metaphorical' in interpreting Romeo at all. In fact, I think I've been very simplistic.

The story works without going into symbolism so viewers can be as literal as they want. (But it's not nearly as fun...;-))

God made man because he loves stories. —Rabbi Nachman

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Chills... you gave me chills. :-)

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Thank you :)

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I only watched the last two episodes ---- The first I saw of his coat was when Claire called to him, to tell him she read the book, and he arose with a clatter. I didn't know it was a coat until the last episode and I realized it was his chain mail. I also caught a bit of a Jesus vibe when he was carving the tattoo into his chest.

In what little I saw I think he was a fabulous character.

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