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Jr. and college (possible spoilers)

posted 7 years ago by elmacho (1028)
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A few points: (1) any parent who would steer their child toward Howard over Stanford is crazy. I understand the importance to attending a HBC, but as Bow said "This is Stanford". There is a cost/benefit analysis that just weighs too much in Stanford's favor.

(2) Sometimes the show misses the mark with trying to claim that Dre and Bow had incredible struggles in their lives. They said in this episode that they do what do so they can give their children opportunities they never had. First, Bow went to an Ivy League school and is a doctor. Second Dre went to Howard and appears to have a job that pays at least $250,000 per year. Not sure if they were denied any opportunities. Not saying they didn't work hard, etc. But this type of talking would seem more on point if they were say The Jefferson's (a black family with no secondary education who started their own business and now have the ability to send their kids to college).

[–] Washingtonnative (2613) 7 years ago

You,ve made a valid statement.

[–] Noufa (400) 6 years ago

OTOH, Howard has a heavily skewed gender ratio. It's literally 2 girls for every boy:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/howard-university-1448/student-life

Stanford's a nearly even split, with slightly more men:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/stanford-university-1305/student-life

I know 17 year old boys don't usually think of college as a place to find a spouse. But maybe they should. You'll never again be surrounded with so many people in your age group who share a similar level of ambition.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 6 years ago

Wow, is that ever not true. Try jobs in Silicon Valley and on Wall Street if you truly want to be surrounded by career like-minded others. Even to this day, a disproportionate number of co-eds are in undergraduate school to get their MRS degree. College is where you acquire a formal education AND personal contacts who will help you to advance for a lifetime. Most college undergraduates are too emotionally immature to know what they need in a life partner. It’s not the place to find your wife, nor are you yet the person to recognize her. Stanford is IN EVERY WAY the better choice. Or Yale, Columbia, U. Penn, Harvard . . . Union, Tufts, Brown, Skidmore . . .

[–] Noufa (400) 6 years ago

People are growing & evolving until the day we die. So marriage is always going to be a risk. I'm a big advocate of prolonged engagements to mitigate that risk. But there's a tradeoff. The longer you wait, the fewer opportunities you get. Dating co-workers is rough. You have to maintain your professionalism. Most of them will not be generational peers. And they're more likely to be already married.

[–] elmacho (1028) 5 years ago

there is a college in NJ (Caldwell) that was an all female college for 50 years. After they went co-ed (in 1985) that was one of their selling points to males. it is still a 70-30% ratio.

[–] Noufa (400) 5 years ago

It's counter-intuitive but for most of the entire 20th century, higher was an old girl's club. Especially out east. Parallel structures for educating women already existed. The change to co-ed just opened up the male schools to females & the female schools remained as-is. Stanford saw that & consciously bucked the trend by imposing a hard cap on the number of women they'd admit:

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/why-jane-stanford-limited-women-s-enrollment-to-500