Previously, people posted how California was the first state in the nation to legalize inter-racial marriage in 1948. Here is a case on segrated housing from 1945:
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/24/11105204/hattie-mcdaniel-housing-oscars
People need to stop with the whole "the inter-racial relationship would not have happened" BS.
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That doesn't mean there wasn't some serious racism going on.
I have no doubt Peggy would be progressive enough not to have a problem, but you can bet other people at the time would've had strong reactions.
In fact, it wouldn't be until 1982 that a plurality of Americans were fine with an interracial marriage and not until the mid-90's (fifty years later!) that a majority was cool with it.
White and blacks have been getting together since well before the 1940s. Whenever they do one of those geneaology shows with African Americans one of the more interesting segments are their white ancestors and guess what not all of them were due to slave owners. The show Finding Your Roots actually found a record of a white German immigrant saying he fathered a child with a former slave and a former slave owner acknowledging one his slaves as his common law wife in a census. This occurred after the Civil War.
In the documentary In Search of Shakespeare, the third episode features the host looking over marriage records of white English women to African merchants. That's 1600. Yes, it did take a while for interracial couples to come out and they got flack from both races but it did happen and with frequency.
DUH. No one on these boards has EVER argued that there was NO racism. The show has clearly shown both racism and sexism, and the characters have acknowledged it.
Yet people complain that it's IMPOSSIBLE that Peggy could have had a fling with a black man. Ignoring the fact that lot's of interracial couples were around in California before 1948. It was only in 48 that they could get legally married. But since there were lots of court cases challenging the law BEFORE 1948, we KNOW it actually happened. In real life.
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Keep fighting the good fight and try to educate people. Unfortunately, the ignorance of history on these boards is often insurmountable.
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goosh69 said:
Previously, people posted how California was the first state in the nation to legalize inter-racial marriage in 1948.
Silly semantics. And does nothing for the discussion. If I merely added "of the 39/48 states that had such laws" before the sentence, the overall thrust of the argument would be 99.9% the same. In part because basically 80% of the states at the time had such laws, and also because things like what I posted above about LA were allowed in at least two of those states. Meaning Hattie McDaniel would have faced legally binding deed covenants in at least CT and NY barring anyone Black, Jewish, etc from moving into certain areas. As well as legally permissible workplace discrimination etc.
But kudoos to you for parsing my argument so well.
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I haven't been back to this board in a while so just read your reply.
But kudoos to you for parsing my argument so well.
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The fact that interracial marriage was only recently legalized in the shows timeline does nothing to support your argument. In all likelihood Peggy would have been a racist at that time, as would most of her colleagues, and even if she wasn't, she would have been fully aware of how indecent it would have been to everyone around her. The blasé attitude towards race you see in the show is just silly. It would have been a massive scandal for Peggy to be fraternizing with a black male at that time.
shareAgain...so concerned with "realism" in a Universe where Howard and Tony Stark routinely invent what in "the real world" would be like 25th century technology. Plus the darkforce, the Hulk, the pym particle, mind controlling purple men, magic ninjas, thor controlling the weather...
The fact is that there were interracial marriages in upper class England in the 18th century (as shown in an earlier post) and interacial relationships in California before the time period of the show. But by all means, ell us how concerned yo uare with REALISM.
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England has never been as racist as the USA was, segregation didn't even exist here, much to the annoyance of the US military during the Second World War, so that's neither here nor there. The shows take on interracial relationships is stupid even though the sci-fi side of it isn't for the same reason that the fridge scene in Indiana Jones is stupid even though the voodoo isn't. The entire premise of the show is built on the idea of fantastical heroes and technologies, it isn't built on the idea that the show is set in some bizarre alternate reality in which 1940's law enforcement is uniformly tolerant of interracial dating. They obviously just went out of their way to make a political statement to the detriment of the show.
shareUhhhhh....They repeatedly addressed the fact that racism, sexism, etc, were problems for these characters.
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