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can't believe the hate out there.

posted 8 years ago by shoutingagain
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Just gotta say, this SO made me smile.
And lots of other adults out there watching.

And most of the music selections, for those claiming thrown in "just to appease the adults"---well, maybe, but it worked.

If you have problems with the Beatles & Sinatra, then you must be both taste & hearing impaired.

Just a lovely little summer breeze (when it's winter out!) of a movie & yet stunned to find one turns to read here so much vitriolic rhetoric. Really? You kidding me?

That alone tells me EXACTLY what's wrong with this world.
People!!!
Must everything be SO overly digested, analyzed & ripped to shreds??! It's NOT trying to achieve anything other than what it does so perfectly.

I think all you angry persons out there should run fast to make appointments for serious mental therapy already.

I was exceptionally entertained as was the audience there with me (have not heard applause at the end of a film since the first Rocky! And I see many movies at the show so that's been a while. Or for that matter, honest laughs also found here that came as nice surprise too).

And for the record, I rooted for ALL the them (even the snotty little mouse) so you can care about animated characters. Zootopia was ALSO great, true, but why must everyone feel compelled to compare everything?
You see animals & feel ALL movies must measure up exactly as that other did (not that I found it lesser, I did not).

Seriously, bears repeating!! THIS board here perhaps is simple measure to exemplify what is wrong with this world.
Relax a bit people, don't take a sweet little film & rip apart like it's "War & Peace" or "To kill a mockingbird"--it is not but also, because it absolutely GREATLY achieved what it set out to do.

Then again, I LOVE music. Absolutely adore it. Transforms our brains you know (and frankly most of this music isn't MY generation. Doesn't matter! It SO works!)

Maybe you shouldn't see it if you can't FEEL music. That's just plain sad for you!

Stop dumping all your grievances, it gets SO old when you rip apart everything you touch (which is many of you here. So often that I TRULY wonder WHY you go see anything! Some of you appear to hate ALL film & art, so why bother to make yourselves...and us, by extension... miserable?)!!

I, for one, am glad I bumped into seeing this. Rather unplanned & certainly one unexpected pleasure.

Lastly, maybe READ UP some (beforehand), you KNOW what you are getting into (or else you're dumb as a rock).

Oh...and surely enough, go 'head & attack me along WITH a sweet little movie. If it makes you feel better, all fine (as of course I do NOT care 😉, while on the other hand, sure the movie makers feel otherwise!)!!

[–] pinkarray 8 years ago

If you have problems with the Beatles & Sinatra, then you must be both taste & hearing impaired.

I don't care if somebody doesn't like the Beatles or Frank Sinatra. It doesn't mean they're hearing impaired, they may just got different tastes. It doesn't mean their tastes are bad.

Just a lovely little summer breeze (when it's winter out!) of a movie & yet stunned to find one turns to read here so much vitriolic rhetoric. Really? You kidding me?

Okay, it looks like you can't see other peoples' point of views. Some people just don't like Illumination. Maybe their films are too silly or childish for them. I disliked Sing because of the amount of stereotypical characters it had. It also thrown in some unnecessary characters who don't contribute much to the plot and do nothing but wild antics. Add in an arrogant mouse who shows off too much. If they had had characters who wanted to change the characters for the better or if they were legit villains in the first place, I would've enjoyed the antagonistic characters more.

That alone tells me EXACTLY what's wrong with this world.
People!!!
Must everything be SO overly digested, analyzed & ripped to shreds??! It's NOT trying to achieve anything other than what it does so perfectly.

This movie is not supposed to be thought-provoking. Who was thinking that this movie raised questions for you to analyze?

I think all you angry persons out there should run fast to make appointments for serious mental therapy already.

But who was ruining this movie? I don't get it. Just because somebody despises a movie doesn't mean they need therapy.

I was exceptionally entertained as was the audience there with me (have not heard applause at the end of a film since the first Rocky! And I see many movies at the show so that's been a while. Or for that matter, honest laughs also found here that came as nice surprise too).

My audience clapped after Toy Story 3 and Despicable Me, I think. Are you serious about this?

And for the record, I rooted for ALL the them (even the snotty little mouse) so you can care about animated characters. Zootopia was ALSO great, true, but why must everyone feel compelled to compare everything?
You see animals & feel ALL movies must measure up exactly as that other did (not that I found it lesser, I did not).

Zootopia and Sing are both animal movies. They may not be similar in plot, but they both came out the same year. I do care about some animated characters as long as their legit likeable enough. And by likeable, I mean having traits such as sweet, persuasive, maternal etc. while also balancing them out with negative traits like insecure, indecisive, or even serious to keep them from being wholesome characters.

Seriously, bears repeating!! THIS board here perhaps is simple measure to exemplify what is wrong with this world.
Relax a bit people, don't take a sweet little film & rip apart like it's "War & Peace" or "To kill a mockingbird"--it is not but also, because it absolutely GREATLY achieved what it set out to do.

It's not supposed to be as complex as To kill a Mockingbird. You don't have to repeat all of a sudden, I understand.

Then again, I LOVE music. Absolutely adore it. Transforms our brains you know (and frankly most of this music isn't MY generation. Doesn't matter! It SO works!)

I love music too but I still couldn't get into this film.

Maybe you shouldn't see it if you can't FEEL music. That's just plain sad for you!

I do feel music. It can be catchy, it makes me dance and some music makes me cry and some music makes me want to listen to it over and over again.

The thing is all in all, the film probably makes some people angry because this was a movie behind the creators of Despicable Me. It was a great movie to some of us and it was disappointing seeing them come out with something as Sing, Minions, Secret Life of Pets etc.. It's like Illumination is dying. And some of the characters in this film are annoying, and by annoying I mean the showy mouse, the aggressive Japanese animals, and the wild piglets. And nobody is there to reprimand them or anything. They just let them get away with it and that's not how the real world works.

Wake up, wake up, wake up, it's the first of the month.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

You're too funny, having to HIGHLIGHT & dissect my every syllable.

Is this like a thesis to you or somethin'?

Take life a bit too seriously?
Yes.
yes, you do.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

And nobody is there to reprimand them or anything. They just let them get away with it and that's not how the real world works.

This is a CARTOON, not real life. Why do you feel filmmakers are obligated to YOU in any way, to show life REAL or not?
Do you have rights or money invested here?
I think not. So let them do their job, you do yours (well...if you have one).

Having said that, it is also conceding I don't know what you even MEAN but still!

Wake up, wake up, wake up, it's the first of the month.

HUH?
I guess you were trying for insult or humor, or both. Who knows?

God. This is a new low, I am quoting YOU now & that's about as low as it gets for me (to copy an illogical action started on your part).

I'm WIDE AWAKE, telling YOU not to take everything so personal (ironic as it IS to say it twice).
Funny that those of you looking for a FIGHT here will always find one. Yes, that is also tragic & sad.

SHOUTING..OUT!! ...meaning, done here!!

[–] workbumpf 8 years ago

She's obsessed with hating this movie. I hated La La Land and Captain Fantastic. But I don't feel the need to troll those boards every day.

[–] pinkarray 8 years ago

Trolling this board? Obsessed with the movie? Me? I don't even post here everyday. I hope you two would learn better eventually then to pick on someone for not enjoying a movie that you love.

Wake up, wake up, wake up, it's the first of the month.

[–] pinkarray 8 years ago

What's wrong with being insightful?

This is a CARTOON, not real life. Why do you feel filmmakers are obligated to YOU in any way, to show life REAL or not?
Do you have rights or money invested here?
I think not. So let them do their job, you do yours (well...if you have one).

Having said that, it is also conceding I don't know what you even MEAN but still!

You act like you're either a Caillou supporter or you haven't seen that many cartoons. There are some cartoons where a person in authority points out a child's bad behavior. Think Wreck-it Ralph where the plot is Ralph is trying to get his medal back from a glitch who stole it and also tries to protect her from going into a race where she could die.

Taking life too seriously? What do you mean? I am not that responsible nor am I depressed.

And that wake up, wake up line was my signature, I wasn't talking about you. lol

Defending this movie and disregarding me when I was trying to be straightforward is not going to get you anywhere in life. If you're going to pick on me and other people for hating this movie and have no good reason for doing so, I'm probably just going to get mad and say things that aren't nice.

Wake up, wake up, wake up, it's the first of the month.

[–] alaninho 8 years ago

I haven't seen the movie, I will probably like it. However, I do find your post sanctimonious and belittling, you should probably work on the way you get your opinions across.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

Well maybe worry about yourself as I don't care your opinion of HOW I express msyelf.

You do KNOW it's none of your concern or business, right? Did someone ASK for your opinon? OH that's right....it's THIS website where persons that have NO voice elsewhere, come to tell OTHER strangers WHAT to do.

Maybe YOU should try to seek someone who will CARE TO LISTEN TO YOU in your own "real life".

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[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

no, no they don't.
Your writing they do doesn't make it so.

Moron.

[–] pinkarray 8 years ago

Right...

I think that you need to re-evaluate your behaviors and get counseling. I understand you like the movie and that's fine. But you don't have to defend it for no good reason, that's very childish. Some people just can't see what other people see or they may like different types of stuff. No movie is going to be liked by everyone in the world.

Wake up, wake up, wake up, it's the first of the month.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

You get some counseling. And now.
Those of you getting on here JUST to fight ---as I predicted in my opening post---are ridiculous persons with no life!!!

just MOVE ON already, ass&*%(s!!!
Stop telling OTHERS what to do because no one listens to you in life.

I predicted the bellicose trolls to come out, there you guys are.
GET some help already.

If you want to argue, find something worth arguing about.
You are the fool here.

[–] shadaif 8 years ago

If you liked that's great. I love musicals and animated films, but I found this one a little boring and too drawn out.

YOUR VOTE MATTERS! Please vote in every election. Thank you.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

That's fair, absolutely. To each their own. It did actually seem tad bit on long side to me as well but guess since I was having fun, didn't care.

And you know how to craft an opposing viewpoint without an assault so YOU can & will be listened to everywhere I'm sure!!

And just your "tag" I know but yes, VOTING sure does matter!!

[–] alaninho 8 years ago

"And you know how to craft an opposing viewpoint without an assault so YOU can & will be listened to everywhere I'm sure!! "

Shame you don't know how. Your original post insults everyone who dislikes the film. Read your own posts again.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

HUH??

What's with the quotes?

Shame back to you, dude.
Don't see how "can't believe the hate" gets you there, but hey..whatever.
Maybe "reading logically" might help you some.

Yeah, you bet when assaulted, I punch back; but claim whatever you so choose, fact remains, never throw the first punch.
It's called defense, standing up for yourself. I have no problem in that area.

IF you missed THAT, then you are missing a lot in life.

And if you don't like that, well, too bad.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

BTW, did reread initial post. True enough (bellicose as all hell, can't argue otherwise!).
Still it's what I think & feel so will let your insult stand.
Seems I don't much care. Never took myself as such but must be one hell of a rabble rouser.

[–] pecinqa 8 years ago

Well, I'm not sure what you're perceiving as hate vs. fair criticism, but I'll give you my take while trying not to "over-analyze" it.

The film's biggest flaw the film has is, what I would consider to be, amoral characters in the main cast. Specifically the Koala, the mouse, and to a lesser degree the gorilla.

I normally don't care if characters are morally ambiguous, but this isn't that type of movie. "Sing" is clearly aimed at very young, and impressionable children. I think it's irresponsible for film makers to have these characters be the leads in this type of film. These are the characters you're supposed to relate to and root for, and should they do anything bad there should be a consequence. The characters need to grow through their actions, that's basic story telling.

This film has everything work out for the main characters regardless of their morals because they really wanted to sing. I don't think it's wise to show impressionable children that it's ok to lie, steal, cheat, and trepass (I'm not exaggerating, the characters literally do these things) without consequence.

The other issue is the pacing, this movie should've been 20 minutes shorter. There's no reason for this simple story to be almost 2 hours long. I felt every minute of the film.

Those are my big qualms with the movie.

I have other nit picky stuff that doesn't kill the film, but would've been nice if that had taken the efforts. This kind of stuff would be something like me feeling that the film was lazily animated/rendered when compared to other similar efforts from other studios. Pixar, Disney Animation Studios, Dreamworks etc... have far more detailed and vibrant worlds than what Illumination gave us with "Sing".

This isn't to say it offends me if people enjoyed the film, but I just wanted to present that having criticism is not the same as hating something.

[–] shoutingagain 8 years ago

Very interesting insights I hadn't considered.
Good points. Never sat to ruminate the morality, but also maybe thought young kids wouldn't like it anyhow (not that it excuses or invalidates your position, not at all).
Glad you pointed that out.

Plus today, more than ever, it might be very prescient time to impress & teach kids that lying, being selfish & other "unbecoming" traits are NOT to be praised & rewarded but discouraged!!
They learn (well in many ways but mostly!) what they live, that's how it works.

No, not wanting to get political but can't see how one fails to be today.
I look around & it seems being an honest, helpful, caring person is NOT what kids see being rewarded in our highest office, which speaks MUCH louder than anything parents can teach them. I honestly have no idea how they "explain it" away. We see how poor character WAS & is actually rewarded. How can that not set up internal conflict in ones formative years?

Maybe not fair to bring that into matters (as I'm sure I'll now get bombastic remarks there too when I'm not trying to invite in "debate") but I see otherwise, that it's necessary to put out there.
Obviously because I truly think kids MUCH more model behavior than words. AS they should really!

And right now, what they see having "worked" is not a good example to follow.
And frankly, truly...I'm not that political but this point in history, can't seem to help myself (no matter how I TRY, I can't remove the "grab her crotch" words I HEARD with my own ear, OUT of my head... or maybe it's the other worse lies. So I'm rightfully concerned, discouraged & kinda sad!).

Maybe not PC to bring this into cartoon movie discussion but we're talking ETHICS, upbringing & character, so totally ties in.

Because in the end, you are right, character & ethics are EVERYTHING when raising children to become good, thoughtful, cooperative, purposeful & kind adults.

I guess I'll still say I liked sing (and yeah, it was a bit too long) but you're the best person who clearly, pointedly & respectfully illustrated a counterpoint & I appreciate your input greatly.
YOU are the sort of person & position persons listen to (and not to defend myself but it's how I am unless I'm deliberately trying to be amusing or inciting, in a sense. On important matters, I KNOW well how to behave myself & it worked like a charm on my college debate team).

Plus since we'll all be silenced soon, seems like a good measure to end with---ETHICS (the BIGGER picture, in life & yeah...movies!).
Thank you.