Catherine told Frances that she wouldn't have gone for Tommy if he looked like Ian Brady or Jimmy Savile.
Duff line. Jimmy Savile got away with what he did precisely because people did find him attractive (bizarre but true). And presumably Myra Hindley fancied Ian Brady back in the 1960s. Think again Catherine.
Yes!
That did not go unnoticed by newspaper reviewers, too.
Cor! As one news writer said about Auntie Beeb, that was "BOLD!"
Wow, talk about indicting yourself openly for having such an alleged abuser within the ranks.
Wonder how many discussions there were in the writer's room and with producers before that was allowed in the script.
Surprised they didn't use that opportunity for one last shot at Jeremy Clarkson. Hey Beeb, how's that working out for you with Top Gear gone? ;-)
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Savile got away with what he did mainly because he could (being a popular tv presenter) and because so many people turned a blind eye to it for decades.
You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun. - Sonny Crockett
^^^ This. I don't think Savile's getting away with it was because anyone found him attractive.
I'm the clever one; you're the potato one.
Hated that inclusion, whether he was guilty or not, I have yet to see any concrete evidence for all these accusations, and he certainly has not been found guilty in a court of law; the others had.
Only those with no valid argument pick holes in people's spelling and grammar.
Oh please...you are kidding right? Hitler was never found guilty in a court of law so I suppose that's ok too?
I have found within the ranks of Happy Valley posters a higher than average idiot rating. It's as if Happy valley is the UK equivalent of something like The Walking Dead board where the sexist (both ways), the deviant and the trolls are finding a home. They must have migrated from The Fall board between series. So many are looking to be offended by x, y and z, so they can parade their offense like a badge and blame men or Women for all their ills. Oh, and Jimmy Savile was a nonce and a rapist, the worst of his kind, deal with it. Using fame and influence to get away with it for decades. Don't make a fool of yourself for even seeming to be an apologist.
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I have yet to see any concrete evidence for all these accusations
She also said he was 'pretty', which Saville and Brady weren't, so it wasn't a duff line. I think that the point the writer was making was that despite Royce being a monster, like Saville and Brady, he is, in a very significant way, different to those two.
shareI'm a heterosexual male so maybe not the best judge, but was 1960s Ian Brady not a good-looking guy?
shareI think Brady just looks like a creep! He was known in his neighbourhood under the nicknames "Dracula" & "The Undertaker" because of his old fashioned 3 piece suits & very long coats & that was a long time before they found out he was a murderer. Brady was also really anti-social even to his work colleagues & even his boss. From what I have read he sounds like a right weirdo!
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Brady circa 1960's was average-looking.
shareI'm a heterosexual male so maybe not the best judge, but was 1960s Ian Brady not a good-looking guy?
I don't know anyone at all who found Jimmy Saville "attractive" That has nothing to do with his crimes but to do with the fact was a odd looking bugger.
But the people investigating the claims have.
You don't regard the testimonies of those abused as evidence? The statement of the police officer who sought to blow the whistle because of what he knew? One of his chums was in fact prosecuted (and convicted) and Savile identified as one of the people taking part in the abuse. The chum certainly didn't seek to exonerate him, as he certainly could have.
It wasn't me who brought up a court of law; I simply pointed out that it wasn't in fact an indicator of innocence.
I'm the clever one; you're the potato one.
I think she meant how they looked now/at the end of their lives ie disgusting. Savile was not an attractive man, are you kidding me? Fred West was disgusting too. Ian Brady today probably looks rather wretched.
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You don't regard the testimonies of those abused as evidence? The statement of the police officer who sought to blow the whistle because of what he knew? One of his chums was in fact prosecuted (and convicted) and Savile identified as one of the people taking part in the abuse. The chum certainly didn't seek to exonerate him, as he certainly could have.
my advice to people is to leave this thread alone. People like nimmy are far too prevalent on imdb. Attention seekers with warped little minds. Not just that, but they are looking for an argument, only the most attention starved mind would want an argument over whether Savile committed crimes. Like an irritating 13 year old making daft statements to visitors so that they get noticed.
The good thing is you can always put them on ....Block
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people can be tried in absentia
would it suprise you to learn that most of his victems were originally willing?