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They are already ripping off Hardcore


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The film hasn't even been released yet, and they are already ripping it off. Shame!

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Yeah, I noticed that too. I don't even think Hardcore will be very good, but a shame to rip off something so quick. "Oh, POV for all the action scenes would be cool, it worked for this indie movie recently, lets copy that"!

The only thing different I guess is that this film can also have non-POV shots included in those action scenes so there's a little differentiation.

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You're acting like Hardcore is the only action movie to have POV scenes which it's not. Heck, even Uwe Boll has done it in his movies. Hardcore is only the first movie to be entirely POV, not the first movie to actually incorporate it. Plus, Grimsby started filming on July 4th which is before the first look at Hardcore was released on the creators Youtube page a few months after in November so I think it's highly unlikely that they copied them.

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It's not even the first movie, there is literally a movie called FPS that was released in 2014
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Enter The Void and Peep Show are both POV. Peep Show is around 10 years old and Enter The Void came out about 5 years ago.

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Just remember: Robert Montgomery did the first all-POV feature in 1947. LADY IN THE LAKE.

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wasn't Peeping Tom(1960) also POV?

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Peeping Tom was only partially POV.

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Thats what i thought, haven't watched it in ages; though it was well ahead of its time.

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First action movie though. Can't find any information on FPS except that it's on a list of found footage movies, so Blair Witch Project 1999 is the closest to it so far.

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Act of Valor was POV during the action scenes

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Yeah, you're absolutely right Jyesta96 - Hardcore is not the first and only action movie to have POV. Was DOOM the first? Probably tons before that even. And anyway, who cares OP? If Grimsby had been POV the entire time I wouldn't have watched it - that first person POV stuff belongs only in video games, not in movies - or if it is in movies, it should be just like it was in Grimsby, used sparingly in only the major action set-pieces. Other than that, I think Grimsby was hilarious - a little OTT in some parts but not enough to ruin it.

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The same that made Hardcore had made several music videos like for several years, and they are very popular on youtube, so of course filmmakers have seen it. Even a lot of Michael Bay's film has point of view shots from the gun like Pain and Gain, and I think I saw that in 13 Hours trailer.

Even Doom did a full POV/FPS 7 minute long scene in 2005. In that sense they are ripping off Doom. Which where reference to the video game and the FPS genre.

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I was gonna mention Doom (under-rated movie, IMO). Hardcore looks interesting, but it's hardly unique.

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Peep Show have done the POV shtick for 12 years now.

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how did they rip off hardcore? i fail to see it, its not like the entire movie is first person...

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i think there could be potentially be, an entire new genre of film.

POV action


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rip off is a bit of a strange term though in movies. I mean saying pov somehow belongs to hardcore is a slippery slope. Although it's fair to say hardcore utilised it a lot.

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The Brothers Grimsby really doesn't utilize the POV shots in much of the movie actually. If I remember correctly, it is only 2 or 3 times in the film for short periods.

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Pandemic did it earlier this year, albeit badly.

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Well, it's not because you label 'em that you brand'em.

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Now I see why it resembles Hardcore so much. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Ilya Naishuller:

Sacha Baron Cohen and Louis Leterrier invited me to shoot that sequence for them, but as much as I love SBC's comedy (been a fan of his for more than half my life) I couldn't do it due to scheduling conflicts. So instead I showed them a very early cut of some of Hardcore Henry's sequences and gave them a short list of do's and don'ts. They followed some and avoided others.

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blah. Did you work on the movie? POV has been done many times before.

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Hardcore looks unwatchable to me. But you do realize that movies have copied video games for years (not to either's credit, for the most part).

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