and they had him as an adult. Finding Neverland was pretty good too but that wasnt about Peter Pan but JM Barrie. I would stop making them. Thoughts?
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The last good Peter Pan was the 2003 version with Jason Isaacs.
shareThe last good Peter Pan was the 2003 version with Jason Isaacs.
The 2003 version is one of my favorite movies of all time.
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Well, it's quite clear, as far as critics are concerned.
Average scores from critics on Rotten Tomatoes so far:
Hook 1991: 30%
Peter Pan 2003: 77%
Pan 2015: 25% 😞
Of course audiences may think differently, especially children. I think this explains the critical-popular discrepancy of Hook. Even Spielberg dislikes his own movie, but Spielberg, Williams, Hoffman, Julia Roberts, and even Hoskins were big names at the time, it was a big-budget movie, and there was very little live action fantasy around back then, unlike now. Also, Disney's version, by then 40 years old, was virtually the only point of reference.
Audience scores on RT:
Hook 1991: 76%
Peter Pan 2003: 74%
Pan 2015: 51%
Dicky
Might be their fondness for the Disney version and even for Spielberg's Hook( Yeah, I've met my share of people).
sharei liked that alot too... but the best imo is Once Upon a Time. They're version was fantastic (as is the whole show anyways). Robert C is incredible in that show. Love that rumple!
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Agreed. I also really enjoyed the Neverland miniseries on SyFy as well.
shareThanks! I should really remember watching the miniseries adaptations Neverland and Once Upon a Time some time, because these sound interesting.
However, I must say I'm kind of wary (or weary) of the tendency of, say, the last ten years to put disparate, extremely familiar elements like Oliver Twist or creatures from countless fairy tales into a blender and present this as something interesting or new. There's nothing wrong with a new twist on an old story, like a more psychological approach, or as social or historical commentary, but there are so many of these grafts and blends by now that you could either classify as 'post-modern' (if you're in a willingly artistic mood) or blatantly commercial (anything that combines well-known, successful elements will draw an audience) that it gets kind of daunting to me.
If I sound jaded, it's not because I'm a cultural pessimist at heart, but because most Hollywood producers are so jaded themselves that they always go for milking familiar formulas.
Nevertheless, I do have an open mind, and Peter Pan remains a worthwhile theme.
Dicky
I liked that miniseries too! 😊
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Agree - aside from the terrific Jason Issacs it really captures magical elements from the book - and the whole saying goodbye to adolescence is quite powerful. It is a very good version. I, on the other hand, can't stand HOOK. It is bloated and uneven and a mess.
shareThe last good Peter Pan was the 2003 version with Jason Isaacs.
It's not a movie but I liked the mini serie Neverland
shareI like HOOK more then most, but i also have to say the 2003 PETER PAN is the best adaption. It had so many interesting things to say.
Very underrated film.
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Um...you are ever so wrong in my opinion...the best Peter Pan movie of all time was Peter Pan 2003 version. Not only was it the most accurate to the ORIGINAL story, but it captured the idea of what Peter Pan was really about. A boy who is left out of the real world to never grow up. If you think Hook is the best, you really have missed out. :/
shareHorrendous Cast. Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman?
I'm no racist, I enjoy their other work, but in this? They L00k like JEWS playing Peter Pan.I don't know what Spielberg was thinking.
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Robin Williams wasn't a Jew.
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I love Hook but 2003 Peter pan is also good. it is a great movie. Peter Pan is good and it has a great Captain Hook.
shareHave to agree with the majority of commenters here and say Peter Pan of 2003 was the best of all. I love Hook; I do. But Peter Pan was not only magical in a sense of capturing the original story (with an artistic pizzazz of colors and mood-setting lights), but it stood on its own as cinematically mesmerizing tale that worked on screen. Even Howard's musical score rivaled that of Williams' Hook, in terms of a certain "magical" quality to it.
Even the author's original stage-play ideas are presented in it (the "I do believe in fairies" mantra; the dual role of Captain Hook and Mr. Darling; etc.).
So by far, Peter Pan spans more ground. Definitely the best. I have yet to see "Pan", and I'm actually hoping I like it. The teaser trailer's the only thing I've seen, and that by itself looks pretty amazing. I'm hoping I enjoy it. If not, whatever. I've still got Hook and Peter Pan.
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You know the 2003 version even got the fairy wedding from Barrie? The basic idea is in Kensington Gardens, but Barrie adapted it for the 1924 screenplay he wrote. This, however, was far too eleborate for a 1924 movie to realize, which, while still quite good, looks like the stage version for the most part.
Barrie wrote:
Peter was away from home that night, attending a fairy wedding.P.J. Hogan's movie finally got this scene on the screen, it's got the bells in James Newton Howard's score for it (I think it's a celesta), and the one who treads on the twig and disturbs the scene has become Hook instead of Smee. They sure did their homework!
Peter is seen at the fairy wedding. This should be an elaborate and beautiful picture of some length, one of the prettiest in the film. Peter is sitting against a tree playing his pipes, and fairies emerge from under big leaves into a fairy circle and go through a fairy wedding; an idea of what this should be like can be got from my book Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens. The music (which will have to be new) of this fairy scene should come from bells. Then we see the crocodile asleep in a lonely glade beside a stream.
So preternaturally quick of hearing are all savage things that, when Smee trod on a dry twig, the sound woke the whole island into life.
Wow, I didn't know Barrie wrote up a proposal for a film. Thanks for the information. I agree with you -- that scene in the 2003 film (and the film as a whole) really lived up to the magic.
shareWow, I didn't know Barrie wrote up a proposal for a film. Thanks for the information. I agree with you -- that scene in the 2003 film (and the film as a whole) really lived up to the magic.Yes, Barrie supervised the first Peter Pan movie in 1924, and chose the young lead, Betty Bronson. He got really into the potential of moviemaking, except that his ideas were far too imaginative and ambitious, and had to wait for either animation or computer graphics to realize them. For instance, he had a grand vision of the flying scene, which in the end turned out be almost only stagebound wire antics:
The flight to the Never, Never Land has now begun. We see the truants flying over the Thames and the Houses of Parliament. Then an ordinary sitting of the House of Commons, faithfully reproduced. A policeman rushes in to the august Chamber and interrupts proceedings with startling news of what is happening in the air. All rush out to see (...)It's very cool they involved this screenplay in gathering ideas for the 2003 version!
Then the children flying over the Atlantic. The moon comes out. Wendy tires, Peter supports her.
Then they near New York. The Statue of Liberty becomes prominent. They are so tired that they all alight on it. It is slippery, and they can't find a resting-place. At first we should think it a real statue. Then we should get the effect of the statue mothering them by coming to life, to the extent of making them comfortable in her arms for the night.
This should be one of the most striking pictures.
Next we see them resume their journey. They cross America, with Niagara
seen.
Then they are over the Pacific, where the Never, Never Land is.
In this interview from 2008 Jason Isaacs still calls the 2003 version "the best film I've ever made".
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/jan/10/1
So, at that point, that would have included DragonHeart, The Patriot, Armageddon, The End of the Affair, Black Hawk Down, Resident Evil and the Harry Potter series!
Of course, this was his most substantial role to date I guess, but still.
Dicky
Critics hated that one too. But again what do Critics don't hate. Except for soulless Star Trek Reboots.
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