What the hell is this supposed to be about?
The trailer was pretty, and I love fairy tales, but we have no sense of what the premise of the film is!
shareIt's base on some 17th century italian fables by Giambattista Basile.
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This could be something like Kwaidan http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058279/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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It's about the adventure of Max who opens a magic book in a magic closet in a magic library, only to discover a parallel world inhabited by robot cars that blow up buildings with missiles, and become the absolute unique chosen son hero.
Or...simply not a dumb american movie that doesn't have to have or show any premise....
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Or...simply not a dumb american movie that doesn't have to have or show any premise....
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It may be a dumb question but you don't have to be an arrogant jerk about it...there are dumb people who watch dumb American movies in your country too, jerk
shareit's a fantasy movie and an epic fairy tale which results in a deep reflection on the nature of love, which should be a gift and instead, for humans, who are still beasts, is often greed.
To show this concept, Matteo Garrone took inspiration, with great creative freedom, from three tales included in the oldest collection of fairy tales in Europe, written between 1500 and 1600 in Neapolitan dialect by Giambattista Basile and brought on screen a kaleidoscope of powerful and evocative images and a carnival of human feelings, instincts and cruelty.
You can find a good review here, I found it online by chance (if you understand italian or if you wanna try googletranslating it: http://www.artslife.com/2015/05/09/il-racconto-dei-racconti-lumanita-macabra-e-grottesca-nel-nuovo-garrone/
In the movie, there are three episodes, you see the struggles and the destinies of these people:
- a sad queen (Salma Hayek), consumed by the desire for that child that never comes; the eagerness with which the queen wants a child and wants him for herself (and only herself) the sacrifice of her husband and stifles the desire of being loved in the newborn, who, once grown up, meets his "twin", poorer but infinitely freer;
- a sex maniac King (Vincent Cassell), always hungry for fresh meat, and two elderly sisters, who take advantage of a misunderstaing to attract the attentions of the insatiable womanizer King; the result is is a never-ending challenge to death and decay of the body, embodied by the two elderly sisters engaged in a race back in time that will eventually divide them, dividing "what is inseparable" as it happens with the two "twins" of the previous episode and with the the bond between father and daughter in the last episode:
- a princess, for a sovereign (Toby Jones) organizes a tournament to marry his daughter, actually counting on the fact that none of the suitors will pass the test he designed, so that his daughter will never leave his side and the narrow confines of their castle.
Each of the 3 tales contains a reference of the others: a quote, an exchange of glances, etc..
Just read a review (in English) which gives a decent idea of what the film's about (though it's more or less what the previous poster said):
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/13/tale-of-tales-review-eat-your-heart-out-for-matteo-garrones-royally-nasty-fairytale
Personally I think this looks awesome!
Thank you, I'm italian so I already knew what it was about (even if I didn't explain myself very well in the post) and I'm gonna see it next week for its release date is 14 may 2015 here. Thank you anyway :-).
shareHi Elisabetta, Sorry, when I said 'the previous poster' I meant you. Enjoy the movie!
share- a sad queen (Salma Hayek), consumed by the desire for that child that never comes; the eagerness with which the queen wants a child and wants him for herself (and only herself) the sacrifice of her husband and stifles the desire of being loved in the newborn, who, once grown up, meets his "twin", poorer but infinitely freer;
Or, a normal mother, with a spoiled son who keeps secrets and runs away from home because his father's a monster.
- a sex maniac King (Vincent Cassell), always hungry for fresh meat, and two elderly sisters, who take advantage of a misunderstaing to attract the attentions of the insatiable womanizer King; the result is is a never-ending challenge to death and decay of the body, embodied by the two elderly sisters engaged in a race back in time that will eventually divide them, dividing "what is inseparable" as it happens with the two "twins" of the previous episode and with the the bond between father and daughter in the last episode:
Or, a normal adult male, and two normal old ladies who want to look younger.
- a princess, for a sovereign (Toby Jones) organizes a tournament to marry his daughter, actually counting on the fact that none of the suitors will pass the test he designed, so that his daughter will never leave his side and the narrow confines of their castle.
Ultimately the king was proven correct, the daughter was unhappy outside the castle and went home to become queen, never leaving her fathers side and the narrow confines of their castle.
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LOL How about simplicity there
Or, a normal mother, with a spoiled son who keeps secrets and runs away from home because his father's a monster.
the Queen was a witch willing to sacrifice her soul for a child who she spoilt, but not evil enough to murder
Ultimately the king was proven correct, the daughter was unhappy outside the castle and went home to become queen, never leaving her fathers side and the narrow confines of their castle.
this one is hard to take, the future queen caused death and mayhem on everyone she touched. LOL She shouldnt have been Queen.
All the characters were unlikeable
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willing to sacrifice her soul for a child
What mother wouldn't sacrifice herself for her child? Like the other main characters she was pretty normal.
the future queen caused death and mayhem on everyone she touched
That wasn't in the movie.
I liked the movie but unlike many fairy tales, there weren't any 'lessons' because most of the characters behaved normally, there was no goodness to reward, nor badness to punish, even the characters didn't learn anything.
The only exception was when the girl was going to accept the ogre, possibly because he came back for her, thus she felt he actually cared. But that was a ruse, and she killed him. Which, again, was neither inherently good nor bad, just like the ogre himself.
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What mother wouldn't sacrifice herself for her child? Like the other main characters she was pretty normal.
first she sacrificed her husband and king for the "idea" of a child. Then she tried to control her spoilt child, who wanted the Crown. And out of jealousy she tried to kill an innocent person, born of a virgin too.. She was not "normal"
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she sacrificed her husband
Incorrect, he sacrificed himself.
she tried to control her spoilt child
Like any normal mother.
she tried to kill an innocent person
Plotting against a Queen is not innocent at all.
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Plotting against a Queen is not innocent at all.
it was her son who plotted, the boy left voluntarily and she still chased after him....
And the brat future Queen, could have jumped off the castle but no....decides to marry and leaves with the Ogre.....So she finds the living arrangements less to her liking LOL So decides to running off with the newest Dick, Tom and Harry
Typical modern women :P
And the "lessons" are for the audience
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And the brat future Queen, could have jumped off the castle but no....decides to marry and leaves with the Ogre.....So she finds the living arrangements less to her liking LOL So decides to running off with the newest Dick, Tom and Harry
Typical modern women :P
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I don't think she was the problem. Her father was the problem. There is nothing normal about a King who falls in love with a flea. When she was playing a song she wrote for him, he was busy with the flea. Then he nurtured it and fed it until it became a big beast. He selfishly tried to keep her in the castle with the contest for her suitor. Death and marrying an ogre aren't the greatest choices. It's hard to find the lesser of two evils there.
She did learn some stuff being out on her own, that's for sure.
There are three stories intertwined. One about a queen desperately wanting a child, one about a princess given in marriage to an ogre, and the other about two old sisters and a lusty king. This is the short version.
Folded within these three tales are stories of their own and are definitely worth the watch.
I find the movie hard to enjoy. It is filled with irritating characters that showcase the ugliness of humanity. All the characters are unlikable and truly deserve what they brought upon themselves. Is there a point to all these?
shareshowcase the ugliness of humanity
Pretty much the point of fables and parables? :P
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"All the characters are unlikable and truly deserve what they brought upon themselves. Is there a point to all these?"
I guess the point is exactly what you said- they all deserved what they brought on themselves...or as I prefer to put it, they all reaped what they sowed.
Obviously you're not wearing your black art house beret or you wouldn't make such a statement.
shareI'm looking at the poster and can't make heads or tails of it.
What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.
I saw a few days ago. I really liked it. I think that what shows its not "Hollywood" is that it doesn't tie up and resolve as neatly as Hollywood films usually do.
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