Ok I did feel for Andre in that scene its just like in real life with all these cop killing innocent black men. Andre should have yelled out Rhonda was my wife. That one lady on the phone walking her dog, she should know Rhonda was married to a black man....seriously. I just immediately thought of black men in real life now that is marrying white women like crazy and wondering if they been through this scenario.
shareI thought it was very weird that they acted like they didn't know who he was and that he didn't live there. I'm sure they knew Rhonda died and that they were married so why would he need to break in? Does Dre even look like he would break in to anything driving that nice truck and well-dressed. I think it was an afterthought and it felt too random like it didn't belong in that episode but just thrown in. The whole scene made no sense.
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shareExactly, I think they were doing this for all this Black Lives Matter going on, I agree it truly didn't fit in with the storyline.
shareYep. They could've introduced BLM in another less "unrealistic" way
shareI thought they did it so his uncle could add trumped up charges.
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I hope those cops get what they deserved.
shareThe evil cops in that will totally get what they deserve! Use your imagination to come up with the best possible way to punish them, k?
Those evil, dirty actors... err, *cops* WILL get what they deserve in your imaginationland. These things happen every day to rich black men, it's a serious problem and they must be stopped! Find your nearest BLM clubhouse... err, *headquarters*, and sign up for active duty. Better hurry, or those actors... err, *cops* will find you or someone you love, and you'll be next!! đżâ ïžđźđ»
It was implied that the uncle was behind the whole thing. But this kind of thing does happen in real life. look what happened to the host of that PBS shoe "Finding Your Roots":
Henry Gates Jr.Harvard Professor Jailed; Officer Is Accused of BiasI doubt that this is the only time it's happened in real life. share
By ABBY GOODNOUGH JULY 20, 2009
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. â Colleagues of Henry Louis Gates Jr., Harvardâs most prominent scholar of African-American history, are accusing the police here of racism after he was arrested at his home last week by an officer investigating a report of a robbery in progress.
Professor Gates, who has taught at Harvard for nearly two decades, arrived home on Thursday from a trip to China to find his front door jammed, said Charles J. Ogletree, a law professor at Harvard who is representing him.
He forced the door open with the help of his cab driver, Professor Ogletree said, and had been inside for a few minutes when Sgt. James Crowley of the Cambridge Police Department appeared at his door and asked him to step outside.
Professor Gates, 58, refused to do so, Professor Ogletree said. From that point, the account of the professor and the police began to differ.
According to his lawyer, Professor Gates told the sergeant that he lived there and showed his Massachusetts driverâs license and his Harvard identification card, but Sergeant Crowley still did not seem to believe that Professor Gates lived in the home, a few blocks from Harvard Square. At that point, his lawyer said, Professor Gates grew frustrated and asked for the officerâs name and badge number.
According to the police report, Professor Gates initially refused to show identification.
In the report, Sergeant Crowley said a white female caller had notified the police around 12:45 p.m. of seeing two black men on the porch of the home, at 17 Ware Street. The caller, who met the police at the house, was suspicious after seeing one of the men âwedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry,â according to the report.
Henry Louis Gates Jr., being interviewed in his home in Cambridge, Mass., in 2008. Credit Josh Reynolds/Associated Press
A spokesman for the Police Department did not return a call seeking comment. But in the report, Sergeant Crowley said that as he told Professor Gates he was investigating a possible break-in, Professor Gates exclaimed, âWhy, because Iâm a black man in America?â and accused the sergeant of racism.
âWhile I was led to believe that Gates was lawfully in the residence,â Sergeant Crowley wrote in the report, âI was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me.â
Professor Gates followed him outside, the report said, and yelled at him despite the sergeantâs warning âthat he was becoming disorderly.â Sergeant Crowley then arrested and handcuffed him. Professor Gates was held at police headquarters for hours before being released on his recognizance.
âHe is cooperating now with the city to resolve this matter as soon as possible,â Professor Ogletree said, adding that Professor Gates wanted the charges against him dismissed.
Professor Ogletree said that Professor Gates had ânever touchedâ Sergeant Crowley, but did âexpress his frustration at being subjected to the threat of arrest in his own home.â
He would not say whether Professor Gates believed he had been the victim of racial profiling. But Dr. S. Allen Counter, a black professor at Harvard Medical School, said he and a number of his university colleagues were âdeeply disturbed about the actions of the Cambridge police.â
âMy colleagues and I have asked the question of whether this kind of egregious act would have happened had Professor Gates been a white professor,â said Dr. Counter, who said he had talked to Professor Gates since the arrest. âWe think that it has to be investigated, and we are deeply saddened by what happened.â
Yeah I know it happens in real life but I was just talking about type placement of the scene in the episode feeling random. They could have worked it into a anotjet episode in a way that didn't make it feel like an afterthought to make a point early on.
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Those things tend to feel out pf place for the victims. Lol
But I posted it for those that didn't believe it could happen to a wealthy, well known Black man whose been living in a White neighborhood for a long time.
A lot of people don't realize that this kind of thing is still going on.
Those things tend to feel out pf place for the victims. Lol
But I posted it for those that didn't believe it could happen to a wealthy, well known Black man whose been living in a White neighborhood for a long time.
A lot of people don't realize that this kind of thing is still going on.
Yeah some people are immune to the truth.
shareAin't that the damn truth!
So sad and it's pissing me the eff off.
What is wrong with these people?
It must be the age demographics. Either way, they need to wake eff up.
Are you paying attention to the show?
Do you not know that his own uncle set him up?
Even if that wasn't the case or reason, that scene could be placed in any scene and it would work. Black man in prominent predominantly white neighborhood found leaving residence carrying items that probably don't belong to him because he's black.
Do you realize that prominent black actors like Danny Glover can't hail a cab in NYC and get them to stop because of his black skin? True frigging story!
This sh*t happens all the damn time.
There was a message in that scene that you and others completely missed.
And what part of it didn't fit? Because it sure as hell did fit!
shareI thought it was very weird that they acted like they didn't know who he was and that he didn't live there. I'm sure they knew Rhonda died and that they were married so why would he need to break in? Does Dre even look like he would break in to anything driving that nice truck and well-dressed. I think it was an afterthought and it felt too random like it didn't belong in that episode but just thrown in. The whole scene made no sense.
What went down with Dre and the cops was not cool. But why would you think that they know him or Rhonda or that she died or that she was his wife? They were just random racists cops.
shareIt's called propaganda. The producers of this poor excuse of a show allowed the BLM movement to pollute their show with their rhetoric. You know, all white cops are evil racists who want to beat/kill innocent black men. Ridiculous!!
Correction: the propaganda is that sh*t that you just spewed.
Not all cops are bad...white or black. But there are bad cops...white and black.
It is those bad cops that the BLM movement is shining the light on.
The sad thing is that racism and ignorance can't seem to grasp the reality of the situation.
Today it may be white cops shooting unarmed black men in the back. Tomorrow it could be black cops shooting unarmed white men in the back. Whatever the case may be...the issue is realizing and acknowledging that there is a problem and then coming together as human beings and as a nation to solve the problem.
Your problem IS MY problem. Because, tomorrow...my problem may be yours. And, the color of your skin or mine shouldn't change that.
It would be helpful if you/we could agree to not disagree on the above-mentioned.
At the end of the day, I believe WE ALL want the same thing. Equality and to live peacefully and happily and to help pave the way so that the next generation...our children have a better and brighter future in a world with much less hate or better yet...NO HATE!
Honestly, this was unrealistic and I feel the show is exploiting the real issue of police brutality. I find it highly unlikely Andre Lyon would ever be harassed by the police no matter what neighborhood he was in. He's simply not the type. All he would have done was shown his ID and explained the lady who called simply was not aware the apartment used to be his and the whole thing would have been over. I can easily see Hakeem getting arrested because he looks and acts like a damn idiot, but never Andre or Jamal. Police don't go after black men like them. They go after the ones who are causing problems and acting stupid. And no, I am not defending the cops, but in almost every case of black people getting killed by cops they were acting in a manner that caused the cops to believe they were dangerous. This is what the news does not like to discuss when they are exploiting these stories and inciting riots and protests that lead to more violence. I know there are exceptions to this, but most of the time the people killed are not like Andre.
Actors are useless without the power of a good writer's imagination
Police don't go after black men like them. They go after the ones who are causing problems and acting stupid.
Not the same thing. While the police were indeed wrong in causing the situation to escalate further, Gates was completely confrontational from the beginning, which was not only reported in virtually all news coverage, but later admitted by Gates himself.
shareNot the same thing.
While the police were indeed wrong
Gates was completely confrontational
which was not only reported in virtually all news coverage,
You obviously don't know or don't want to remember what really went down...but that's OK. Stay ignorant of the facts if it makes you feel better.
shareStay ignorant of the facts if it makes you feel better.
We're not talking about other cases, and nobody said really bad stuff doesn't go down...we're talking about one specific case, and you're completely distorting the facts.
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Actually, he was arrested in front of his home, after giving the cops nothing but attitude from moment one. Again, the cops didn't help to keep the situation calm, but neither did he. You really don't know the facts, but can't admit that out of pride or some other BS.
I suppose Gates was simply lying when he later admitted he was being confrontational himself.
As far as other incidents you keep referring to like a security blanket, what part of "we're talking about one specific case" can't you understand? Obviously a serious reading comp problem.
And Empire didn't "deal" with the issue; it portrayed it, and about as subtly as a 30-ton Mack truck.
Now you're done here.
Great rebuttal. You nailed it.
Let me know if it opens their mind or if it still remains tightly closed?
The man was attempting to enter his own home. I would have been confrontational as well.
That never would have happened to a white man in the same neighborhood.
You know, some people are just beyond stupid.
I'm SMH too.
I wonder if they even know that the POTUS himself...Barack Obama got involved in that case with Prof. Gates?
I'm convinced that the young demographics of viewers are the ones with these outrageous opinions.
You are so effing naive! Get real and try educating yourself on the subject of profiling and racism.
By the way, TV has and will always use its influence to shed light onto a problem. Other areas of entertainment does the same.
Too bad you're blind to the message or that it completely went over your head due to total and inexcusable ignorance.
Oh look, I'm dangerous!!! Hands up in the air with my back turned to you.
I can certainly see how any common sense and rational thinking person would mistake that as acting in a manner conducive to getting a bullet to the back of the head.
Thank you so much for the tip on what not to do.
The show was sending a message. Art imitating life.
It's done all the time in film and music.
>>Does Dre even look like he would break in to anything driving that nice truck and well-dressed. I think it was an afterthought and it felt too random like it didn't belong in that episode but just thrown in. The whole scene made no sense.<<
yeah, i thought that too...just GUTTED, when out of nowhere those cops showed up and pulled a Clockwork Orange on Andre....
and sure it was meant to address what is happening in our country
but someone mentioned the uncle....ooooh! i don't remember, but there was some scene where uncle was in the car looking out? i don't remember it being before or after the cops harassment scene tho'----??
and is it me? or did they kinda gloss over that anyway? all the sudden Andre is in his house drinking and finally mackin on that girl because his ghost-wife showed up and gave him permission----lol-----but so they didn't really go into detail at all about addressing it??
okeyy...anyway....
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Check out the episode again. The scene wasn't out of nowhere and just thrown in.
The uncle was there watching the incident go down and enjoying himself while doing so. He also, wanted Andre to see him to send a message that...yeah, I set you up mothafocker.
Whatcha gonna do? Your move bitch!
That was the reason behind the scene. And, they used current events to send a message.
I really don't understand why some viewers are having a hard time understanding that and/or the significance of the scene in the first place. It's really not that difficult to figure out.