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Lucious Lyon makes it boring.

posted 8 years ago by flovixen
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I'm probably going to get some hate but i'm starting to find the show extremely boring. Non of the characters have really grown or had any character progression. They keep doing the same thing when it comes to story. Something goes wrong, lucious is the bad guy, everyone finds out and he gets away with it. Like i get the dude is your dad but surely it makes everything he does worse as family is meant to have your back more than anyone else.

They are back tracking with Andre and bringing up his mental problems instead of having hi s character actually grow.

Season 1 has jamal on the streets trying to make it then season 2 switches it and has hakeem trying to make it.

I was excited with the start of season 2. Hakeem starting his own label and showing some growth. He starts to focus and get serious. Jamal takes on his fathers role and the characters seem to start to have some major changes. But nah, Lucious gets back in control and everyone backs down like cowards around him.

And guess what... same thing happens in season 3 so far. Lucious does loads of bad stuff and no one bats an eye. He's the reason why his kid gets shot but never mind that. Lets just allow him to kidnap hakeem's baby and be okay with it.

I mean what has really changed since season 1? Hakeem is still a spoiled brat, jamal is gay and proud but nothing else. Andre was still trying to win his fathers approval and has mental issues and lucious is still worried about some small business problem with the cops after him.

Boring.

I haven't watched the latest episode but i highly doubt it will change my mind on this show not actually going anywhere.

[–] numberfan-646-92308 8 years ago

You are on target!

[–] HalfBloodPrincess1967 8 years ago

I'm actually finding season 3 more interesting than last season, so far.

Think of Lucious as an African American Victor Newman or J.R. Ewing. Victor and J.R. were always the bad guys.

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[–] wrightinchicago 8 years ago

I'm finding S3 more interesting than 2, which was poorly written and all over the place. And Terrence Howard is keeping it interesting because of strong acting - with Taraji. It's based on Dynasty and Dallas and it's a soap opera about a family. There's more double cross and double dealing this season than before. More about the business side of music.

[–] LiteraryLegend 8 years ago

"Think of Lucious as an African American Victor Newman or J.R. Ewing. Victor and J.R. were always the bad guys."

The sad thing is most Empire fans probably don't even know Victor or J.R. Many young people grew up on stupid shows with no substance.

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[–] jayghani 8 years ago

You hit the nail on the head, but even with that I felt that Victor could have done something else.....

[–] draivin 8 years ago

Yeah, it does feel that way. Either the characters are stagnant or have gone backwards.

[–] LiteraryLegend 8 years ago

Honestly, if you think Lucious is boring this is not the show for you. It's like people watching Dallas or Dynasty, but don't like J.R. and Alexis. The stars carry the show. Lucious is the star, not Cookie like people like to think. Lucious is the one the entire show is centered around. Sounds like you should just move on to something else.

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[–] nchi9 8 years ago

Lucious Lyon makes the show very exciting. Without Lucious and Cookie, this show will fizzle and die.

Lucious was powerful this past episode and I loved his scenes. Very enjoyable to watch.

I've watched this episode at least twice already!!!!

[–] westen1223 8 years ago

Then what do you expect it to be? Please do tell.

[–] tiffanykk2002 8 years ago

I agree with the OP. I know it's a soap/musical, but some lasting character progression or at least effort would be nice. It's unsatisfying to go on a journey with characters and yet they remain the same as they did when the show first began. It's like an investment of time that never really pays off. However, it's just entertaining enough to keep watching, frustrated or not.

[–] Bladebrown22 8 years ago

I agree OP. You would think since Lucious is always the Root of everyone's problem that someone would say Enough! But That's Lucious lol! The characters are all under his thumb and have no backbone !

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[–] nunnehickc 8 years ago

Season 3 appears to be a slicker reboot of season 1. I'd rather it start from here than where it was in season 2. I don't find it boring at all. Lucious as the devil is a key component to this show's success.

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