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Andre the smartest dumb azz

posted 8 years ago by angrygemini
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You know each episode he gets worse, I believe he is not living in the realm of the real world anymore, he's doing all this shytt, and thinks nothing will come back on him, if one thing he should have learned first hand from Lucifer, its trust no one. Nessa seems to have genuine feelings for him, but eventually she will grow tired of this crap, She is not Rhonda who acted more like a mother babying him all the time.

Shyne is the last person he should try to get into cohoots with, he will just take Andre out if he is successful in taking luscious out. He is not thinking clearly, and seems even more sick now than before, when it blows up in his face he will be even worse off, and man if lucious finds out everything which he will eventually nothing stays a secret in that twisted family. Dumb azz, Hakeem was right he is gon learn and get killed or kicked out of the company, and family seems the only way to be noticed is to have a musical talent.

He really will be the black sheep. Also, why doesn't he start his own company as intelligent and savvy he can be, he is justdoing idiotic things all over the damnn place and its going to get really messy and fall apart like his life.

Idiotic things Andre has done thus far:
1.Letting Nessa know you were behind hacking incident all to win Lucifer's trust, and lock down Nessa.

2.Recruiting Shyne the man who's azz you whipped to kill your father, who will then take you out if killing Lucifer is a success.

3.Setting up Tiana obviously and letting Cookie know you did it, but you still saved empire.

4.Letting Hakeem know you did it and you don't give a crap, Hakeem will do something trifling to expose truth, but it will happen.

5.Cutting a child's hair off, scarring her for life, just to convince potential Empire partner that this is how the Lyons do business, this will for sure convince her to bring in other investments. Just Wrong. Poor little girl.

[–] tonychristopher-31641 8 years ago

Andre is the definition of when hard work goes over looked

He devoted his life and loyalty to his father and he has calculated all of his steps and shows what is necessary to win

In reference to nessa telli ha out the hack was stupid but he needed her loyalty to ensure she doesn't jump ship in his plan for controlling empire

Side note he doesn't fully trust nessa Rhonda's last words to him were she's trying to take you away from me and his look confirmed he doesn't fully trust nessa

On the beach Rhinda never gave a formal blessing of him being with her just exectution of there plan

In reference to shine I know the writer want you think he really is in cahoots with shine but Andre only plays for himself and Andre k ones he can't beat Lucious outright and Andre doesn't really want luscious dead but he needs shine to downsize him

Cutting off the girls hair and Tiana setup was show how ruthless he's become and admitting to Hakeem and cookie was only to show he doesn't respect them because he views them weak

Why would nessa tell anyone about the hack if he promised her to be the star of empire and the only person she could tell he now has working for him he also got dirt on shine there's no proof to tie Andre to anything but he got dirt on everyone who needs him

I would story wise he's up mentally he's down

[–] sgibbons192 8 years ago

He's the biggest dumbass on the planet if he doesn't respect cookie and thinks she's weak. She's a hell of a lot tougher and smarter than him so boy better watch out. For screwing over his entire family they will all come after him. I will enjoy cookie whopping his ass like he deserves. Lucifer junior needs to be taken down.

[–] vdw842003-882-164649 8 years ago

If andre needs to be taken down then so does Luscious because he is the reason his family is all screwed up and Cookie is not exactly mother of year because she hasnt been the greatest mother either unless it jamal who is her fav but she hast been there for hakeem and sure hell has been there for andre. Noone in that damn family is innocent and Andre is just tired of being overlooked and I seriously doubt he is serious about killing his father.

[–] nchi9 8 years ago

If there is one thing Andre is extremely smart at, it is knowledge about finances. He knows how money moves (he exposed Shyne's dealings) and understands how to take control. I don't know how Andre found out about all those business transactions Shyne had made prior to the Feds freezing up Empire's money. I'm pretty sure Nessa must have told him since she took care of her brother's finances. So there you have Andre and Nessa possibly working as a team trying to take control together.

I don't think Andre views Hakeem or Cookie as weak. He just probably believes that he is more knowledgeable and knows what to do to take over Empire without any of them being able to figure it out...hopefully.

I just hope he doesn't plan on killing his father because that's where things will backfire.

It will be interesting to see how things go with Andre and Nessa especially now that Takeem is back together again. It'll be fun to watch.

[–] vdw842003-882-164649 8 years ago

Are takeem even back together? When hakeem tried to kiss tiana, she gave him that look like wth was he doing? Im pretty sure if they get back together it will only be for exposure and to get back nessa and andre. I have a feeling laura is going to comeback and then hakeem finally be with someone that really wants him because nessa and tiana sure don't and I can't blame them.

[–] nchi9 8 years ago

You know each episode he gets worse, I believe he is not living in the realm of the real world anymore,

You may be right there. The poor guy has bipolar which I honestly think has gotten worse with all he's been through.

I have a hard time believing Andre is dumb. I think Andre is highly CALCULATING, and every devious thing he has done so far has been for a reason.

Rhonda never really let Andre do things for himself which was not very helpful to Andre. Now that she's gone, he has fallen apart. Nessa IMO is using the right approach with Andre. Once he learns to take control of his treatment, I believe he will be a better and stronger man. Nessa was raised by her brother Shyne who is strong and in control. No wonder she would want the same which will benefit Andre in the end.

Losing your child, your wife, having bipolar and being disrespected and unappreciated by your father is all too much for one person. I think Andre is tough or he would have been finished by now.

I like the new Andre now because to me, it is very consistent with his history. I would have been surprised if he was turned into Mr.Goody-two-shoes. He has a lot of pent up anger, frustration and hurt in him so going down the path of a gangsta is just all too genuine.

I love the new Andre. I hope Nessa gets him to take control over his illness. I really don't believe he plans to kill his father. Shyne is in for a rude awakening.

[–] blaque108 8 years ago

Andre is far from dumb he is pretty damn smart and evil.

[–] turnera70 8 years ago

Agree with everything you said. He's going to get Shine'
s money, tell lucious and have Shine executed

[–] vdw842003-882-164649 8 years ago

Im just glad his annoying ass ghost wife is gone. How can the man function or move on with anyone with her always lurking around and popping up at the worse time, just be gone already. I never really cared for rhonda. She was never close to anyone but andre, so she really had not story. I started to feel sorry for after what anika did but that left quickly when they made her annoying ghost.

As for as Andre losing control, yes he is losing control because he has got finish this plan for his annoying wife that is gone but still lurking around in his mind. Once andre can fully get rid of her in his mind, then he can gain control and takeover empire in the right way because I feel he deserves to run empire just like his brothers had their chance and failed. I want to see him strong and happy with his new love that I feel like is a better fit for him because she doesnt want baby him but turn him into a strong black man like all the men she grew up with.

I mean Rhonda wants Andre to kill Bella, I mean she is doing the most and *beep* andre all the way up dead like she did alive.