Black Love


Mr. Daniels, please keep showing BLACK LOVE. I'm loving the Nessa& Andre relationship.I would like their relationship to go further perhaps marriage and a child? I like seeing black woman fought over for a change. Please keep the crossover.No more non black woman love interest.We need to see black men loving black women.

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I agree, I mean no disrespect to rhonda, her death was sad bu the u can tell that the chemistry andre and nessa have is on a different level than andre had with rhonda. He loved her but he has some serious passion with nessa and they just are so good together. When she was dancing and singing for him, I was like this is what chemistry is all about.

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I don't miss Rhonda. I think the people that do miss her have stockholm syndrome.

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I don't miss her either. Her death was sad but not heartbreaking and I just think I never got her marriage with andre, it just seemed crazy.

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vdw842003

no disrespect to Rhonda's character but I agree. I didn't really see much depth in their relationship/marriage esp from a chemistry perspective.

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I don't miss her either and I noticed Andre haven't been having his bi polar spells since he hooked up with Nessa.

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I found it funny that Hakeem thought she was his. I was hoping she'd be honest and said "Boy, you're too ugly and you're still a child!" Lol

I can't see any woman even noticing Hakeem after being with Andre.

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They're the same age in real life, Bryshere "Yaz" forgot his last name who plays Hakeem and Sierra McClain who plays Nessa. As far as the ugly part, rofl. Trai Byers (Andre) is 12 years older than both of them in real life, born in 1981.

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I wasn't talking about his age. I'm talking about how he acts like a child. He's a mental child. Shes seen him act like a child and seemed frustrated by it.

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Mr. Daniels, please keep showing BLACK LOVE. I'm loving the Nessa& Andre relationship.I would like their relationship to go further perhaps marriage and a child? I like seeing black woman fought over for a change. Please keep the crossover.No more non black woman love interest.We need to see black men loving black women.


^^^ This.
I totally agree with you here 100%. This Andre and Nessa pairing has really got me more excited than ever. From the first time they locked eyes when they first met with her singing in that studio, I was like BAM!!!

The chemistry between them is great. The fact that they have so much going for them together, makes for a very exciting and intriguing storyline.
The end of last episode was EVERYTHING!!!

To Andre and Nessa!!!  

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Nch9

Yes and Yes

sending you a high five😊 via the internet.

I hope the writers really take off with something good with their relationship

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sending you a high five😊 via the internet


🙋 High-fiving you back.

I am sincerely hoping that the writers rev-up Andre's relationship with Nessa and his strive for power because it is really picking up some steam and momentum. This will be good if they don't break them up anytime soon.

🙌 Andre and Nessa!!! 🙌

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nchi9

 I believe it is Time for Andre to have "power" and "great love" on this show.

The writers (Mr. Daniels if you're reading this please contact me LOL I write) could really make his and Nessa's storyline VERY Interesting! There are several directions they can go with it and still keep them together...add a little suspense here and there, but keep them together.

Rerun on Wednesday. When is ut back on after holiday?

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nchi9

Sorry for typo. UT

When is it back on, after the holiday? LOL is what I meant.

Where do you think Cookie and The mayor, T. Diggs relationship will go? (can't recall his character name at the moment).

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Kayeinspire, I believe it's coming back next week on 11/30. We only have 3 more episodes left till winter break so I hope they give us a good cliff-hanger.

I hope Cookie and Angelo's relationship get serious i.e. they end up getting married but I have a bad feeling that will only happen over Lucious's dead body. Lucious abandoned Cookie in jail and settled comfortably with another woman. It's about time Cookie hooks up with someone who truly respects her.

Lucious will do EVERYTHING to sabotage that relationship and I really fear for the Angelo's life if he really tries to marry Cookie.

Oh! the drama. I feel there's a lot coming on. I can't wait.

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I'd like to see Nessa die painfully.

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I'd like to see Nessa die painfully.


Why?
Is it because she took Rhonda's place or that she stabbed Tiana in the back? Either way, I don't think that will ever happen. She is shaping up to be Andre's main love and team-player.
The girl has the voice and knows her numbers too. Two things that put her in a good place to take over Empire with Andre.

Love Nessa 💗

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To me nessa is the best female on the show. I don't know what they are doing to Cookie, she has been all over the place this season and angelo makes her character extremely boring. ANika and Tiana, snoozefest. They are on the show for one purpose and one purpose only, eye candy. Porsha, funny but will never get a storyline. Becky, im starting to like her character but I just know Lee is going to backburn her again.

Nessa has only been on the show 9 episodes and got more depth to her character than the ones been on from the beginning, Im talking to you tiana, porsha and becky. Besides, she is the best singer they have on the show, no lyp singing, no autotune, that is all her even the writers said so.

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Nessa has only been on the show 9 episodes and got more depth to her character than the ones been on from the beginning


Oh yeah so much depth. She sings in one concert and everyone thinks it's the greatest thing they've ever heard. 2 Seconds later she's a full-fledged basic sociopath scheming with new basic sociopath Andre for control of everything. She's completely un-phased that she's rocketed to success because she must know the writers will make everything work out for her and people find it so attractive. No wonder real sociopaths are celebrated in reality.

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She hasnt done any worse than luscious, anika, hakeem, rhonda, andre and the list goes on and on. Tiana is not miss innocent either, she is going to use hakeem for exposure and then go back to screwing female models. Everybody in this show is scandelous right down to Cookie.

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The difference is all of the other characters have been humiliated in some way, and it's very pleasant. They are also established characters (by the low standards of this show). Nessa is a contrived newcomer.

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Nessa hasnt done enough bad for me to hate her. I mean all the things luscious ass has done, I still find my intrigued by him because being bad is always fun and I feel like if they want make Nessa kinda bad, I do not care. I always say female villians are the best because they feel like its not ladylike or attractive for a female to be a bitch but im here for it and im here for andre crazy ass. To make a great couple on this show, they need to be more than aww lovey dovey type, I need see complications, maybe a little bit of evil and passion and nessa and andre got that.

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You do not know if she is going to get humiliated or not. Im sure something will happen from the whole fashion show thing. I mean the season is not even over yet for you to say she gets off scottfree. I mean Anika committed a double murder and she gets to live it up in mansion and have sex on a daily basis while being a mom, now that is getting off scottfree.

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Why?
Is it because she took Rhonda's place or that she stabbed Tiana in the back? Either way, I don't think that will ever happen. She is shaping up to be Andre's main love and team-player.
The girl has the voice and knows her numbers too. Two things that put her in a good place to take over Empire with Andre.

Love Nessa 💗


So basically you love any sociopathic character that is just inserted into the story with contrived success and control. 3 Seconds ago she's a nobody whose mic wasn't supposed to be plugged in and now she's confidentially sailing through with exclusive artists going crazy over her and her run-of-the-mill voice is supposed to be some super talent. It's stupid and painful to watch. Of course, all the characters are amoral and awful but she is a pathetic character getting everything handed to her this season because apparently that appeals to people who find it sexy and 'cool'. Just look at this thread, people preoccupied with a portrayal of 'black love' even though it is between a nut and a psycho. Apparently Tiana/Hakeem, Cookie/Luscious/the election guy aren't 'black enough' to be black love to take notice to.

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pparently Tiana/Hakeem, Cookie/Luscious/the election guy aren't 'black enough' to be black love to take notice to.


First of all Cookie, Luscious and the election guy is not even a relationship. Luscious is married to his son's baby momma and raising his son's baby while screwing his son's baby momma while still wanting to be with cookie who is trying to move on.

Tiana/Hakeem relationship is going to be a mess too, she bisexual and hakeem had an issue with that the first time and besides she is always the rebound chick to his many crushes.

Yes, Nessa and Andre are on a powertrip right now but I feel like their is a real connection there that goes beyond I want power. Like I said everyone on the show has lost damn minds and imperfect. Andre has been overlooked and backburned long enough and he is tired of it, so I can see that he wants to take some kind of revenge on the ones that have hurt him. I really do not feel bad what nessa did to tiana because tiana had it coming on how she treated becky who was only trying to help out her ungrateful ass. In the industry, they play dirty just like that to make it to the top. Im sure the beyonces and rihannas of the world have had to do alot dirt that we will never know to make it.



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Im sure the beyonces and rihannas of the world have had to do alot dirt that we will never know to make it.


Exactly. This is what I meant when I said "No wonder real sociopaths are celebrated in reality." I loathe both of those 'artists'.

Tiana/Hakeem is a relationship whether a mess or not and you know there will be problems with the relationship of the 2 sociopaths. You also left out what's wrong with Cookie/Taye Diggs or whatever his name is. You don't have to like any of these characters you know. Yes they are all awful but like I said before they all get their comeuppance consistently and that's what keeps me watching. It better happen to Nessa and it better be brutal. They better stop trying to make her seem so much more sophisticated then these other horrible characters because as you have shown people are enjoying her for all the wrong reasons.

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Yes they are all awful but like I said before they all get their comeuppance consistently and that's what keeps me watching. It better happen to Nessa and it better be brutal. They better stop trying to make her seem so much more sophisticated then these other horrible characters because as you have shown people are enjoying her for all the wrong reasons.


That is exactly what good storytelling is all about. The fact that we are bickering about Nessa and her storyline is great! We are discussing it 
The writers are building up her character and to say that they are making her sophisticated is a little premature. We don't yet know how her story ends. So in essence you can't yet conclude that we are enjoying her "for all the wrong reasons."

Usually as the story moves along, the story arcs will change and so will the fate of the characters. Some fans will love some storylines when it favors their favorite actors and some will not when it is hurting their own favorites. That's just how things roll with any interesting storyline. We can't all love all the actors and storylines all the time.

We don't know yet what Nessa's fate will be until the story unravels so until then, I will enjoy her storyline because she is winning at the moment.

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Yes they are all awful but like I said before they all get their comeuppance consistently and that's what keeps me watching. It better happen to Nessa and it better be brutal


Like, I said in the previous post, the season is not even over yet so we really do not know how nessa or even andre's story will unfold. She has done one bad thing compared to others on the show who have done sh!t load of stuff and still havent got punished, like Luscious and even anika. Yes, they may have gotten humilated for different things but have never paid for anything. Lusicous is like the Victor Newman of primetime as he will always get out scottfree. Like, I said I can personally care less about the burning of the dress, to me that is just not a good enough reason for me to hate the girl when its others that have done way worse than her and get praise to the high heavens. She needs to do way more for me to even put her on my hate list.

On the side note, if its any character they try to make like they are better than everyone and people even complained about this in season 1, that person is jamal. No matter what anyone does or how bad it is, he will always comeout on top. The writers are not trying to make nessa innocent and I like that. I like that she may be a female version of andre and will do whatever to get whatever.

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GSmith9072, I don't like the comments about anyone not wanting any interracial relationships, but Nessa is actually really nice and a good person for Andre. She's nice and caring.

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GSmith9072, I don't like the comments about anyone not wanting any interracial relationships, but Nessa is actually really nice and a good person for Andre. She's nice and caring.


Agreed.

Simply me.

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Message and Andre are laughable. But I do think she is the best singer on the show.

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Message and Andre are laughable


Message??? Who is Message?

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Nessa! Auto correct.

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Message and Andre are laughable. But I do think she is the best singer on the show.


No they are not . I hope you are not black because this reeks of self hate.Andre and Nessa make a beautiful couple.She deserves to be fought over.
I hope it doesn't break up the brothers. She's worth it and I'm here for it!


BLACK LOVE 😘 ❤

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cinematheraphy

I concur:

In my best Cookie voice.

"Andre, I'm so glad you found someone like Nessa who loves you for you. Rhonda was nice, well, she was nice, but she wasn't really for you. Just remember though, honey, that we are the Lyon's family, and blood is thicker than water, don't let Nessa come between you and your brother."

:-)😂

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^^^This. Its nothing about that couple that is laughable. They chemistry is raw and sexy as hell from the way they look at each other to every scene they have together is just all there.

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vdw842003..

I concur! Go Andre and Nessa!!! I am loving it!

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While I do love the showing of BL, I'm not 100% on the A/N train. I liked them initially, and I love the gazes they give each other, but last night, the outfit that Nessa had on (when she went to his office to invite him to the party) really made her look too young for Andre. I also don't see the chemistry between TB and SM. Maybe because he's actually married to another cast member.

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Ur kidding right, they have amazing chemistry together. I mean what more could you ask for with them. The way he looks at her, t he way she looks him. Im not even going to talk about that love scene they had, it had all kinda chemistry minus the rhonda crap. She is suppose to be 21 on the show and in reallife 22. Andre is suppose to be 29 on the show and in reallife 32, so technically she is not too young for him. I mean if were all able to sit through that horrible relationship with hakeem and camilla is was way too old then nessa and andre who are only about 10 years apart should be ok.

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Chemistry is subjective, you see, I don't. You pointing out a few scenes won't change that fact. And, I didn't say that Nessa was too young for Andrea, I said the wardrobe she had on, really showed the age disparity between the two actors.

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They're a gorgeous couple. It seems that Andre feels more comfortable around Nessa as well, more at-ease and relaxed. Rhonda was okay, but it seemed that their marriage was filled with dysfunction and stress that was really not good for Andre mentally or emotionally.


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Trai loves working with Seirre too, he is always complimenting her and saying how talented she is. I think they have amazing chemistry. Age is nothing but a number, as long as nessa is grown which she is, that is all that matters and she acts mature too, she doesnt act like a child.

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I don't see marriage or a child in their future.

I have EXORCISED the demon

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Personally I thought Andre and Nyssa were cute in the beginning when she was just a rebound for Rhonda. For him to be in a serious relationship with her, not really. She looks too young for him. If 12 years is no big deal to you okay thats your opinion but I personally wouldn't date a guy over 10 years older than me and most of my friends wouldn't.
I was reading through the comments and someone said something similar to me and another replied that they must not like black love. No, that has nothing to do with it. They just don't fit together (Age gap aside).

Honestly, Idk why you guys are excited. How do you guys really expect this to play out?
Andre was an already mentally unbalanced guy who lost a BABY and then his WIFE by a lady who used to be his almost mother in law and had his brother's child (a few months after Andre lost his).
Nyssa is sister or cousin (or something) to that thug who's constantly trying to sabotage Lucious and almost killed Andre in his house?
And Nysa is basically like Rhonda. She and Andre try to do whatever they can, morals aside, to screw people over to get what they want. I'm suppose to root for Nysa because she's black? Um, no.

That moment when she told him "I'm not gonna take care of you" in regards to his drugs, I liked that. She seemed like she cared and had a deeper side to her than craving fame. But in all honesty she's a black younger version of Rhonda. If you didn't like Rhonda, why would you like her? If the stupid plan doesn't blow up in their face and ruin their relationship, than Nysa's cousin thug is definitely planning to screw Andre and his whole family over (which would kill their relationship).


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12 years its not big deal if u both are grown. When I was 21 years old I dated a 33 year old but I was always mature for my age. Just like Nessa, she is suppose to be 21 on the show and she is 22 in reallife but she acts mature which makes it ok for me in my eyes to see her with a man like andre instead of a child like hakeem. Besides Nessa is worldy and experience young woman. Im sure she has experienced alot growing up in the hands of shyne and she is smart. She is not miss virgin inexperience laura from last season who was with hakeem and couldnt handle all the family drama, Nessa is a ride or die just like how rhonda was and that is why dre is attracted her because not only is she talented as hell but she seems to be down with whatever and andre likes that.

Even tho, nessa seems to be a ride or die, I still wouldnt say she is just like rhonda. I think the difference we will see with nessa is that even tho she will ride for andre, she will know when to bag back. I felt like sometimes rhonda pushed andre too much that it drove him almost crazy. I havent seen where nessa is driving andre crazy.

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I understand the point-of-view about her being young - not too young for Andre, IMHO, but just young period. When you’re that age, you are still getting to know yourself - and what you want. But, Nessa has lived in the middle of a gangsta kinda life, and you don’t grow up in that without developing some maturity. It’s a necessity. She’s not afraid to speak her mind, go against Shyne, tell Hakeem that his clapback song sucks, tell Dre that he needs to manage his illness for himself. And, at the Hakeem-goes-ballistic Xtreme show, you can hear her say to him that when it comes to being disrespected, don’t let these earrings and this dress fool you.

I don’t think she’s a black Rhonda. Empire’s writers aren’t that shallow. And we haven’t seen them peel back the layers of Nessa’s character yet. I’m not saying she’s a goody-goody. She’s obviously not. All Empire characters are shades deep. You don’t survive in the Lyon’s world by constantly taking the moral high ground.

For me, Nessa doesn’t coddle Andre. (No shade to Rhonda, cause she was ride-or-die) But I feel like Rhonda propped Andre up out of love (and ambition), while Nessa challenges Andre to do it himself. (That said, I’m still shocked they killed off Rhonda, but the Andre that we are seeing as a result of the turmoil is sooooooooo much more interesting.)

And yes, the circumstances that you mention surrounding Andre and Nessa are real threats, but that’s what’ll make it interesting to watch. I personally think Andre is playing both his father and Shyne. And, I think it’s about time for Empire to have a real threat to Lucious’ reign. Lucious winning all the time? ZZZZZ. How ironic would it be if the most unappreciated, underestimated, out-of-favor, and perceived-as-weak son would be the one to out-Lucious Daddy Dearest.

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