My guess is the kidnapping occurred after she lost Ben to CPS which then compelled her, in her whack job state, to steal his biological sibling to replace him.
When do you think conception occurred?
If David and Elizabeth went to an ova bank it is very unlikely they would have met any egg donors. When David was there, giving the appearance of being a loving husband to his poor old (temporarily) barren wife Elizabeth, he was scoping out the egg donors, excuses himself to go for a smoke, or void his bladder, and takes an opportunity have his way with Lori?
Have you given any thought to the mystery of why Ben was in an out of court for 16 years?
If Lori is the party initiating these court battles, does this mean she is maintaining two separate identities?
Two separate identities? Yes, if she keeps going to court, to get Ben back, she is going to have to be Lori Smith, a woe-be-gone single mom, whose little boy was unfairly taken from her, when he was a little baby, or little toddler, for no good reason whatsoever. Woe-be-gone single mom Lori's only child is little Ben.
And the other identity is Lori Smith-2, a happy single mom, raising her happy child Carter, who has never gone to court, to try to get Ben back, doesn't know Ben, doesn't know David, or Elizabeth, or Taylor.
Lori Smith-2 is living underground. She can't afford to have any wily people at the court house wonder who her adorable little girl, who is the same age as Ben, is. If CPS learn she is taking care of a second child, won't they want to protect that child for the same reasons they wanted to protect Ben?
I started another thread where I raised the question as to whether, if Lori was really totally nuts, Carter could have grown up without noticing Lori was totally nuts.
Can you grow up with a severely troubled parent, and not notice it?http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3186138/board/nest/244673336
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cinsmith1
9 years ago
Most egg donors are a little more involved than sperm donors; they don't donate to ova banks, they usually answer ads placed by prospective parents. She donates, feels guilty about it, stalks them, and finds David in the park after Elizabeth has the girls (they were infants at the time). She starts a relationship with David and gets pregnant around the time they are under a year old. She has the baby, loses custody, goes to court, loses again. She says "Hey, we already have a kid; why don't I just take one of those?" goes back, and takes the toddler that looks most like her and David. By now the twins are about 30-36 months old and Ben is about a year. She then proceeds to raise Carter for the next 13 years. They could have been a bit liberal with the numbers, maybe it's been almost 16 years (notice Ben can't drive, so he might be 15) and rounded up.
As far as your last statement; there have been many cases of children who were molested as kids who never said anything. They didn't know that daddy's not supposed to come into your room naked and climb in bed with you. They thought everybody's daddy did that. If crazy is your normal, how do you know it's crazy? Don't you have to learn what isn't crazy first before you can compare it to anything?
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gswan
9 years ago
Most egg donors are a little more involved than sperm donors
I bow to your knowledge on the egg donor industry. That does make it more likely David would have met Lori. But it also makes it hard to understand why Elizabeth didn't recognize her. We know why David would lie to the police, and say,
"Oh, she is just someone I knew from the park." But surely Elizabeth would recognize her babies' egg donor?
She donates, feels guilty about it, stalks them, and finds David in the park after Elizabeth has the girls (they were infants at the time). She starts a relationship with David and gets pregnant around the time they are under a year old.
Very reckless of him to have an affair with her.
She says "Hey, we already have a kid; why don't I just take one of those?" goes back, and takes the toddler that looks most like her and David.
That explains why he was in and out of court sixteen years ago, and fifteen years ago.
But surely going underground, after she kidnapped Carter, would have made it too difficult to keep returning to court to be entrusted with Ben's care. If you want custody of your child restored, won't a CPS worker want to inspect your home, make sure it is safe for a child? No lead paint, a room of his own. A window it is safe to exit by, if the apartment door is blocked by flame. etc?
If she shows them the home she shares with Carter, surely the CPS worker is going to ask,
"who is the little girl who lives with you Lori?" If she shows them a 2nd address she maintains, just for seeking custody of Ben, what if the CPS worker interviews her landlord, her building's superintendent, her neighbors?
"Lori, your super says you are a ghost, who only shows up once every couple of months or so, to check your mail."In the very unlikely even she got Ben back, she can't maintain two separate homes, one for each child. If she brings Ben to the home she shares with Carter, how is she going to explain to her who her new brother is? When the CPS worker pays a followup visit how does she explain who Carter is?
If the followup visit makes the CPS worker think Ben isn't being cared for properly CPS could try to take Carter, as well.
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