I understand that they have some poetic licence so changing names/places/times etc. I understand, but to ignore the very essence of the origins is irresponsible.
Thank You for your INTELLIGENT response...rather than the disgusting trash talk coming from the mouth of a child/teenager who posted before you. Who gets so twisted, angry and vile because another person has a different opinion? Someone with a very thin skin, that's who. Their juvenile replies show their lack of intelligence and the ability to have a normal discussion.
Imagine being so angrily insulted simply because you don't agree with a poster's response? They are clearly not a very deep person.
Anyway...back to the actual
subject you originally posted about....so much of the 'history' VINYL presents is completely wrong and I agree about the Hip-Hop factor.
Sure, a lot in VINYL is metaphor, but many young viewers might not comprehend that. The Mercer Arts Center DID collapse, but not during a NY Dolls concert, it happened during some questionable repairs to a portion of the building, which had also housed a small hotel.
I'm trying to enjoy VINYL..not watch a few episodes, then give up on it, like so many in this forum are doing.....but having worked in the music business....I can easily see there is so much wrong with this show and way too many cliches.
Perhaps, if the producers had hired some people who had actually lived during the era depicted and had worked in the music biz...the series would have been more authentic. So much of this series seems second and third hand info. I'm surprised with Mick Jagger as one of the producers, that so much of VINYL seems inaccurate. Then again, he was not part of every music scene going on back then.
Many of the music performance clips can be confusing to the young viewers, especially the injected scenes of late performers from the 1950s and 1960s. The editing, in general, has been terrible.
I appreciate reading posts like yours, you brought up a very good point. It clear than many viewers know little about the origins of the many types of music out there....it's great you picked up the mistake re Hip-Hop's origins in NYC.
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mistashock-74762
9 years ago
lol, I try to act like the building collapse scene didn't happen. That had to be the most ridiculous scene in TV history. The problem though with the history arises because they use so much of it in the show. They use real artists names, likenesses,record company names, producer names, record company owners names and very real situations. The "realness" of the show is supposed to be its shining feature.
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emo_ville2002
9 years ago
I had to come back to this thread....I just read earlier today in the NY Daily News....that Kool Herc has filed a lawsuit against HBO over his portrayal in VINYL. You certainly are very observant and clearly caught the discrepancies re his technique etc.
According to the Daily News article....Kool Herc was initially offered only $10,000 for his input, he thought the amount was too low, he then declined HBO's offer....without his permission, HBO still decided to add his name and backstory to the series!
If anyone else in this thread wants to debate the FACTS that this show toys with many historical facts....they can easily access reports online about Kool Herc suing HBO over his portrayal.
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Kompressor_Fan
9 years ago
Since it is historical fiction, he will probably be laughed out of court. Just an old, washed up has-been hoping to get a payday from producers with deep pockets.
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emo_ville2002
9 years ago
Since it is historical fiction, he will probably be laughed out of court. Just an old, washed up has-been hoping to get a payday from producers with deep pockets.
Come back to this forum when you become famous and then say the same things when someone screws up some vital facts about the beginnings of your career.
Kool Herc WAS approached by the VINYL producers, it appears they must have thought his involvement in the beginnings of Hip-Hop was relevant to the series. He's not frivolously suing the producers. He refused their offer, they included him anyway.
People sue for much less, a photographer colleague sued when they noticed their concert shots were used on the back of an album cover of a very famous band's live LP. This was years ago, in the mid 1970s, my friend won the lawsuit.
The 'excuse' the record company's publicist used....they thought the photos were 'stock shots' which the record company had bought years before. They neglected to look into their files to see if the photographer had been paid.
The publicist also neglected to notice that the slides left at the record company were copy slides, not the originals, they were in a folder which basically stated they were the photographer's portfolio with a number to call if they wanted to see more of the photog's work or buy the shots.
Back then, record companies rarely bought the original slides and negatives from photographers, Unless the photographer was on assignment with a band, such as a tour....the full rights to photos usually cost much more than simply buying a few random photos shot at a concert.
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Kompressor_Fan
9 years ago
Come back to this forum when you become famous and then say the same things when someone screws up some vital facts about the beginnings of your career.
That's silly.. This is the "who cares" of the year.
And so what if people sue for less? It's not like frivolous, petty, nonsense lawsuits are anything new. Getting laughed out of court isn't anything new, either.
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mistashock-74762
9 years ago
Wow, very interesting. I'm sure for $10,000 or less, they could've hired someone who at least knows the culture and could assist in Hip Hop's portrayal on the show.
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emo_ville2002
9 years ago
Wow, very interesting. I'm sure for $10,000 or less, they could've hired someone who at least knows the culture and could assist in Hip Hop's portrayal on the show.
Perhaps the producers of VINYL added a portrayal of Kool Herc to garner publicity, they knew adding him without permission was wrong. They surely knew there would be consequences.
Today's world of showbiz is just as much about negative press as it is about positive press. These days...any press is good press. Someone puts out a homemade porn tape...they became an instant celebrity! Ask the KarTrashians!
As Oscar Wilde once said:
"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." This series needs all the press....good or bad...it can get! 
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