Rose Leslie, from Aberdeen, Scotland. Harry Threadaway, from Devon. But of course they have to speak American; no kid will go watch this forgettable movie if they had a normal British accent. So grating to see actors ruining their (considerable) charm by having to meow and drawl.
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You, sir, are incorrect.
shareThe fact that you can detect that other accents are different from your own, means by definition, you have an accent.
share"Lack of an accent?" Your thinking this would mean that you think that specific dialect was the very first and original? AHAHAHA!!!!
We've met before, haven't we?
Insecure much?
shareWhat's this insecurity you sense? Unless you meant to reply to another poster. I can't see how my comment would come off as insecure because there's nothing concerning me in it.
We've met before, haven't we?
I didn't sense anything. I read insecurity in your condescending post. The OP never stated the dialect that he was referring was "the very first and original. You made a strange leap and I was merely pointing out.
shareThe ONLY way speech can be free of an accent, is for it to have been the very first. Meaning there's been no influence to it. It's 'pure', in a sense. And this is impossible.
The reply "Insecure much?" in no way points out my strange leap.
We've met before, haven't we?
If you feel your response was appropriate to the conversation, then okay. I felt it was out of proportion. Take care
shareAbsolutely appropriate! Someone made an incorrect statement. But if you don't mind having false information, then okay. Take care.
Would you care to provide anything to the topic? This is regarding accents in case my completely inappropriate reply took you aback. Do you believe that the mid-western dialect in the US is free of an accent?
We've met before, haven't we?
I'm assuming you aren't from the US and a Mid-westerner? Most in this country believe that a Mid-western accent is neutral, not saying it is without accent, but it is neutral. There is a very big difference is saying "without accent" and "netrual".
For some reason, non US citizens get their panties in a wad and believe US citizens are being ethnocentric when that couldn't be further from the truth. Most are just stating what they know to be true within his or her own country, which is where the movie was filmed.
not saying it is without accent, but it is neutral.
There is a very big difference is saying "without accent" and "netrual".
And I hear you....but the posters in this thread, including you, took it to a nasty, condescending level. And I have no idea why? Why would you take that tone?
Please explain to me? I don't go on other movie threads bitching about accents or opinions on accents on films made in other countries. This thread took an ugly turn. Why? Incorrect information? Seriously!?!?
I don't think you know what you are talking about. They didn't take it to a 'nasty' or 'condescending' level, and if you think they did and if you are offended by it then there is something wrong with yourself. Your comment was purely random and out of place, and now you act like a child to hide that.
shareYes, hon, I just pulled that out of my a$$. There is something seriously wrong with me and my comment was random. And I'm such a child. You feel okay now?
shareIf trolling, 7/10. If not, I'm going to assume you haven't traveled much in your lifetime. And I do not, as a rule, frown upon actors playing outside their culture, far from it, but come on. An American picture, shot in North Carolina starring a Scot and an Englishman, both putting on mediocre American accents? Just...why? ---It wants no straps. - Karlhttp://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000024/nest/158601447
shareInfinite_Rage said: "When we say three, it doesn't sound like "free" and our TH's don't sound like V's. I've always laughed at how horribly the English, speak English."
lol it's true, those with certain british accents can't even pronounce their own language. We all have accents though, even if you don't recognize american as an accent.
I've always thought it would be a joke to hear a british person do a voiceover for a movie trailer. I just would not be able to take it seriously..
"He's gone to the uvver side for the fird time and all 'e wonts is revenge"
Even here in Australia, they'll have an ad on TV for a serious TV drama, but the voiceover is an aussie accent, so it just makes you cringe. Kind of like kids pretending they're making a movie trailer or something.
Maybe you think that way because of the huge cultural hegemony America has on the rest of the world, maybe not so much in central Europe where individual cultural identities are more intact but certainly in "the West"; places where English is the predominant language. And it's particularly bad in the UK where a huge percentage of films, television and music come from the US, consequently you get more, uh, impressionable people saying "can I GET" instead of "can I have", adopting that egregious "Valley Girl" rising intonation and other hideous Americanisms. I remember the first time someone who worked in one of the big chain bookshops said: "my bad!" to me, I had to grit my teeth! And this is in a small provincial town, not a big city (haven't heard anyone say "can I get" here yet, though, thankful for small mercies and all that!)!!
But the irony of an Australian criticising "British accents that can't even pronounce their own language" has just given me a huge belly laugh, so thanks for that!
And Infinite Rage (an apposite username if ever there was one!) is just making a silly generalisation. At least Brits can pronounce "aluminium" properly!
I didn't have a problem with the accents in this film at all, I knew the guy was British but had no idea the female actor was.
"Hot lesbian witches!"
At least Brits can pronounce "aluminium" properly
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Hah, bless ya, I was being kind of tongue-in-cheek...I don't disparage anyone for their accent. Rudeness, though, now that's another kettle of fish!
Very cool profile pic by the way!
"How perfectly goddamned delightful it all is, to be sure"
Please get off that high horse of yours! You would have us believe all Brits speak the Queen's english. I remember from various British films, shows and literature that lower class Brits do not speak properly either. They have their own dialects, accents, idioms, and slang, frowned upon by the muckity mucks such as yourself, and for generations this used to divide people into classes (which they happily imparted to the Indians). The Brits always searching for a means of squashing under their feet those they deem inferior. I don't know why, but I always imagine people like you sitting with your knees tightly pressed together as you sip your tea and look at your small feet (indicative of other small things...such as brains). You give the British a bad name. Many of them no longer wish to be classified as stuck up prigs! Save yourself some trouble...stop watching American shows, listening to American movies, etc, etc. Hide yourself in the refined works, ignore those Brits who lack the class you readily ascribe to yourself, and the Americans who you obviously feel lack it completely, and hide away in your home, watching Regency movies and wishing for days long gone when British people ruled the world and stepped on everyone else.
shareWas uh, was that comment meant for me? 'Cause you're making a few big assumptions there!
"How perfectly goddamned delightful it all is, to be sure"
American, is NOT an accent! It's the specific lack of an accent
Settle down. No one is claiming the world revolves around them. I'm responding to this because your arrogance is so darn annoying.
Most broadcasters and US movies lean towards a "general American" accent which is distinctly Midwestern. For Americans (for you PC freaks, US Americans), the goal is do be accent neutral FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY.
American is one major dialect of English language.
For your information, English is an Indo-European language originating from the kingdom of England, while its roots are from Northern Europe. Since the British brought their language to the North American continent about 300 years ago, I don't see what properties could suggest that American is the lack of an accent. On the contrary, American refers to how English is spoken in United States and englobes various accents and sub dialects throughout the country.
If the lack of accent is defined as an original language before it morphes into different dialects or variants, British English would be the closest to "a lack of accent".
To get back to the topic, I think that the context of the movie has absolutely no grounds to request actors to adapt their native language to an American accent. Wherever the place, there is nothing wrong with having characters that speak British or American or other variants of English language. It seems pointless to me to choose a British to speak American and likewise in this case.
"If the lack of accent is defined as an original language before it morphes into different dialects or variants, British English would be the closest to "a lack of accent"."
This is not true. Two hundred years ago, the Brits sounded more like modern Americans do. Their accent developed while Americans largely did not change the way they speak except for in some extreme cases such as in the Southeast, New York, and southern California. There are other examples, but those stick out. Even in those areas there are few speakers of the extreme accents. You're hard pressed to find the southern accent existing in any young persons. They're all dying off, and the neutral, homogenized accent remains.
I can go anywhere in the USA or the Netherlands and find speakers who speak just like me. And I have done so.
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Why are you even bitching about this? Their American accents sound fine and natural enough. They're actors. If they're supposed to pretend to be totally other people, then why are you fussing about them pretending to have different accents as well? You can whine and moan about the supposed idiot that's making them change their accents, but I find it a much greater insult that you're overlooking how well they've succeeded, not to mention everything else that's gone right with this film. If this bit of criticism was a part of a full balanced review, sure, but if all you're gonna do here is go out of your way to make a thread just to point something like this out, then you best shut up entirely.
shareYou nailed it, keep-flying! (By the way, nice grammar... that's refreshing to see on an IMDB board).
As for the OP, what makes you say that no American (or "kid" as you say) will see this movie if one of the actors has a British accent? If anything, we love an accent and are intrigued by it.
Oh, and also "American" is not a language.
I think all of you guys missed the point the OP was making.
It seems all actors who aren't American, need to put on an American accent to act in a TV series or movie made in America. Hugh Jackman, Hugh Laurie for starters. It seems you're not allowed to talk without an American accent if you are in an American movie.
Funny, I thought there were a lot of different races, accents of people in America. I must have been mistaken. It would be such a pity for an actor from England to speak with an English accent now, wouldn't it?
It seems all actors who aren't American, need to put on an American accent to act in a TV series or movie made in America. Hugh Jackman, Hugh Laurie for starters. It seems you're not allowed to talk without an American accent if you are in an American movie.
Thank you! That was my point exactly! Another recent example is THE AFFAIR, with Dominic West and Ruth Wilson both meowing U.S.-style.
Of course I admire their acting skills, but it's so insulting for the whole British movie and drama industry.
Oh, and thank you to the user who said that "American is not an accent", I never laughed so hard!
It seems you're not allowed to talk without an American accent if you are in an American movie.Enough with the America insults. It's tiring. This is not true. America is one of the most ethnically diverse countries there is. Which is why it's called the melting pot.
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It's the R rating that will deter a "kid" from seeing this -- not the inclusion of a "normal British accent."
shareSounded more like Canadian accents to me ...
shareWell this American had no problem with their accents.
SIDE NOTE: Australian actresses Jacki Weaver and Rebel Wilson have TERRIBLE American accents.
"Jacki Weaver and Rebel Wilson have TERRIBLE American accents."
Johnny Depp *beep* his english up pretty darn good...
shareThey sounded fine to me.
sharethis forgettable movie
So certain of this based upon what evidence exactly?
That's very subjective, and you obviously haven't heard all of the world's accents yet if those would be your picks. Either way, what does their American accent matter? They could've hired American actors to do the job, then you wouldn't be moaning like this and the quality wouldn't change, if it did then odds are it'd be worse. So it's made by Americans, filmed in the USA, distributed by Americans, the whole film is basically American so it kind of makes a whole lot of sense that the characters would talk with the American accent. If you don't like the American accent then go watch something else instead of throwing feces at it.
shareThere's also different American accents. An American from California sounds different from an American in Texas, New York, or Louisiana. Also, on Game of Thrones, which is based off of a novel written by American author George R.R. Martin, it seems like Rose Leslie, and the rest of the cast, speaks with their regular accent. Besides, actors do what their scripts tell them to do. This is obviously a movie where the characters are supposed to be American. So what's the point in complaining? If you want to hear accents, rent a foreign film, and read the subtitles. Metro Manila was okay, but I'm Filipino American, so I might be biased.
shareNo need to tell me that. Tell the other guy.
shareI know, and the only american accents my ears can tolerate are the Boston/New York(ish) ones, the more South and Midwest the worse.
Midwest sounds wayy too "white american" (stale in other words), while the southern ones sounds halfway retarded.
The north-east coast are the only ones keeping a somewhat natural accent.
I know, and the only american accents my ears can tolerate are the Boston/New York(ish) ones, the more South and Midwest the worse.
Midwest sounds wayy too "white american" (stale in other words), while the southern ones sounds halfway retarded.
The north-east coast are the only ones keeping a somewhat natural accent.
Treadaway slipped up quite a bit, but Leslie's was good.
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