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It's so much easier for boys right? - wrong


I think this was one of the messages from the film makers. That society still has double standards when it comes to male and female sexuality. It's all okay for boys to want and have sex but if a girl does she gets abuse for it. I'm not disagreeing with this but the boys tend to have different problems.

Consider this. Minnie wants sex. She really wants sex. So she starts having sex. Now many teenage boys her age would be the same. The lustful urges seep through them needing satiation. And yet they may well find it rather difficult to find anyone to have sex with them. Because 15 year old boys are not necessarily attractive to women. All Minnie has to do is flirt with guys and she can get what she wants. I suspect it's a bit more difficult for most boys. I do think one of the animosities between the sexes comes from how 14-15 year old boys who are just starting the dating game find themselves 'left on the shelf' by their female contemporaries who are into older hunky guys. And if those teenage girls don't want to have sex they don't have to and if they do then they can. But boys don't always get what they want.

I have to say as someone who was the smallest kid in my school year, getting interest in girls was near impossible. Not just at school but at university too. Years of sexual urges that couldn't be satisfied. Even now in my 30s I haven't got over those sexual hang ups. So my first thought on seeing Minnie having sex was lucky her! It's alright for some of us. I did like the film in many ways but it did bring back those teenage inadequacies right back to the forefront of my mind.

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Remember how the girl passing her outside of school said "slut"!? Have you ever heard a guy being called a slut? I don't think the film was saying it's easier for boys. Of course girls can get laid ANY time they want. What they get called, and how they are treated is WAY different than boys. This was based on a true story. It was a very sexual tale, which made it seem more realistic to me. This was a girl, a self loathing one I would add, that was enjoying her sexual awakening and making mistakes along the way. Not easier or harder than what you went through, just different.

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It's an apples vs. oranges comparison. It's hard being a teenage girl and, for very different reasons, it can also be hard being a teenage boy.

A former girlfriend of mine once made the claim that childbirth is more painful than passing a gallstone through your penis. Who knows if that's true since NO ONE has ever had BOTH experiences. If fathering children were THAT painful though, most men would probably never do it. But maybe men are just bigger wimps than women? Possibly, but I think a black-ops interrogator would tell you it's generally a lot easier to torture information out of a woman than a man.

What it comes down to is you just can't compare apples to oranges. A lot of feminists/women THINK men have it a lot better (and some men think the reverse), but there is really no way of comparing the two very different experiences.

"Let be be finale of seem/ The only emperor is the Emperor of Ice Cream"

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JimBallard you're trying to score with chicks out of your league that's why you fail. That's why men think it is so easy for chicks to get laid but women tend to be more realistic about what they can get (a woman who is a 6 goes after men in that league) whilst you (probably a 6 as well) are frustrated you can't score with 8s, 9s and 10s.

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Right, it is much easier for girls to get laid.


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Consider this. Minnie wants sex. She really wants sex. So she starts having sex.

Unsurprisingly, being a man, you completely missed the point of the movie.

She doesn't want sex. She wants love. And like many teenage girls who have never been loved, and who are being hypersexualized by a society who wants to sell them some stupid idea of themselves, they confuse sex with love.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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Boredom is bullsh#t.

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To tell the truth it is hard on both boys and girls growing up.

Let me explain.

As Minnie was walking by those girls and they called her a slut. Well with boys, one guy is walking by some bullies and they call him a fag or a pussy. If he says anything it wont be one on one but three on one. You have to ask yourself the question do I want to get into a fight with someone that knows how to fight and you don’t? I know of a kid that did fight every time someone called him a fag. He was suspended so many times he had to repeat a grade.

I remember if you were labeled a pussy it was pretty bad. I would think just as bad as being labeled a slut.

Yes a girl can have sex anytime she wants but having sex with the wrong guy and she will be known as a slut throughout HS in days.

For boys to have sex with a girl they have to have all the right conditions and for the most part they are never there. To do it in your house it has to be in the daytime and both of you have to skip school. Do you want to do it in the woods and take a chance of someone seeing you? In HS I did do it in the woods and we got bitten so bad by the bugs.
The only place you can do it is in a car but owning a car is expensive. My parents wouldn’t let me use their car.

The only real way to have sex is if you live next door to each other.

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I'm not saying boys can't have a difficult time growing up, they can, but do you get how warped it is that the bad thing you can think of that happens to guys is being called a fag or a pussy. The reasons those insults exist is because the homophobic and sexist society we live in! They are insults because society is telling us being gay, or being a women is inherently bad. Using pussy as an insult to boys hurt women indirectly

I wouldn't call being called a slut is just as bad as being called a pussy, that's all i want to say. Sexism harms both men and women. If you're a guy and not living up to the stereotypical man, you are shamed. But sexism still harms women most.

Also, people keep saying that a girl can have sex anytime she wants? That's not true at all. Girls get rejected all the time. Sure if you are somewhat attractive you can probably find an insecure boy to sleep with but it goes the other way around as well.

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I think you are just projecting a little from your own experiences here. I don't agree this was one of the film maker's intended messages, but we all have our own opinions. I think the positive thing to take is that this film recalled some past inadequacies (as you said) and forced you to confront some of these old demons. It almost sounds vaguely therapeutic and perhaps that is some you should explore at some point as an anonymous (and largely ignorant) observer.

There is a lot going with the teenage girl sex thing. Girls mature faster than boys, lose their virginity at earlier ages, older guys are typically more interesting (to a HS girl anyway) and way more mature than their HS counter-parts. Personally, I matured earlier but didn't have the self-confidence to be successful with girls until after high school. I don't really agree that a majority of young men though carry much resentment towards women into their adulthood because they had poor luck getting laid at an earlier age though. Obviously there is a problem because the percentage of single people in this country has never been as high, but it is surely a multi-faceted issue here.

You also have to realize that, intrinsically, women just have much more life-changing risk attached to having sex. The worst thing that can happen to a guy, physically, is contracting an STI or something. In the area of the country in which I live, there are literally TONS of single mothers in their 20s who had a kid in high school or just after and now lament the fact it is hard to find a husband or even a serious boyfriend. It is kind of sad in a way.

An economics professor once published an article about human sexuality and it was an interesting read. He basically compared female sexuality to an informal cartel. They have a precious resource that is in extremely high demand and thus can afford to be very selective and set a high "price" (not literally, but in terms of a courtship, gifts, dinners, etc). When one of their own "goes rogue" and devalues the group's main commodity, they are derided and ostracized (ie: the slut shaming scene). As someone said earlier, there is not similar correlation with men as it is just an apples to oranges comparison. Men who manage to "master" the game and sleep with tons of women are lauded by many of their peers because of the skill and effort that it takes to claim such a resource.

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