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Started out strong and interesting but quickly fizzled

posted 8 months ago by BobbyNiner (240)
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no real conclusion here but feel like he was murdered. that being said both danny and the document makers are constantly trolled by 2 psychopaths. its a weird story but i know for a fact that the US gov and other gov were very interested in software that did database control back in the day not sure why cause they arent that hard to write. who knows the answer. I was entertained the first two eps but then it kinda derailed. 3/5 tinfoil hats.

[–] Boricanator (1440) 6 months ago

The only interesting part of this documentary were the things that are public knowledge and published back in the day.

Everything else is just assumptions and conjectures.

I think that there was something that happened, but it was not as extreme as they are making it out to be. Most of the parties either went to jail or are dead.

So, nothing much to do here.

[–] LTUM (1034) 14 days ago

IMO the filmmakers went right up to the razor's edge then pulled back. he basically recanted the whole damn doc at the end when he said 'the only one we know for sure was in that motel room was danny casalero'

WTF

lol

dude just UNDID the whole damn 3 hours doc he just spun for us. why would he do that?

IMO i think they came around and scared him. SAME WAY they came around to warn danny, to back off. that is EXACTLY what i think happened.

if nothing else, the cut tendons on both arms, TO BONE DEPTH, prove danny did not commit suicide. THAT DETAIL ALONE proves he was murdered. (among many other things)

yeah i think that young guy (Christian) was scared into submission.

in a way it was disappointing for the series to end that way, open ended, after building up the suspense so well for 3 episodes.

i believe that he got scared, edited out his hard facts and conclusions, soft peddaled the narrative for the release, and did just enough to finish the project to pacify his producers/investors, then cut ties and GTHO.

that is my take on this.

but it was hella fascinating for two episodes, and blew my fucking mind like nothing else. also, i fully believe in the shadow octapus puppet masters theory. yep.

[–] [deleted] 14 days ago

I think that the documentary was more about these 2 guys going down the rabbit hole and their experiences than danny casolero himself.

I don't think they got scared, i think they simply found nothing. i don't believe that casolero killed himself, but i don't think he knew as much has he thought he did.

If you put all this together, whats the major thing? what is the major thing that danny casolero said he had?

well the iran hostages, the october suprise.. that the reagan admin delayed the hostages to make reagan look better. but is that really massive? is that game changing for the course of american history? is it bigger than watergate? is it bigger than the clinton emails? NO!

These two guys went down the rabbit hole and found nothing. just a list of shady characters, strange events that you couldn't link together.

but i repeat, i DON'T think he killed himself.

[–] LTUM (1034) 14 days ago

you could be right.

it has been a while since i watched it

i recall getting some very intuitive vibes off the first few episodes, evidence that was more than circumstantial. i need to rewatch it to properly respond to your comment here.

but, one huge question never answered is, why didn't they just pay the guy for the software? it doesn't add up. but having said that, not sure how that ties into larger puppeteer narratives, the octopus thing. but it is odd they wouldn't just pay him. NONE of this would have ever been looked at twice had they just paid him.

anotehr thing is we can't assume we have all the info. CHristian may have left out a lot of key info. many things do not add up.

i will revisit the series then return to give more thoughts on your comment. :)

[–] [deleted] 14 days ago

I agree with you on that, it's very strange that the government just didn't pay the 8 million for the software and in doing so make any heat go away. i mean 8 million for the federal government is peanuts. that doesnt make sense (unless they had legitimate beef with the quality of the program)

I think an important thing to remember is that netflix is the mainstream of the mainstream, if there was a 0.00000001% chance that these guys were going to uncover anything, it wouldn't be on netflix.

When it comes to danny casolero, there seems to be only 2 extremes, that he had nothing and when nobody took him seriously, his debts and health problems.. he killed himself...

or he had world changing intel that made the elites kill him.

my opinion? that theres something inbetween that, that he snooped around in things like that indian reservation where people were getting rich off cigarettes, gambling, drugs and who knows what else, casolero also mentioned drug cartels..

Does it have to be CIA bush hitman who killed him, because he knew too much? or could some low level guy who was making 250k a year off unstamped cigarettes, gambling, drugs or whatever... have decided to pay to have him killed?

i do believe 100% that there is some deepstate, some shadowy organization in the world.. but what i question is how much of it did casolero really know? unless he had some lost files that we don't know about, what he did have? the october suprise or inslaw... it's common knowledge right?

He clearly didn't kill himself, we have witness statements of a dark haired man entering his room, we have him flirting with waitresses (so he didnt seem suicidal) and telling his brother "if i die, it's not an accident" but sometimes all it takes is some low level shady character who doesn't want his 250k cigarette operation messed with to have you killed.