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Ending

posted 11 years ago by DavidTL
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They died. At least that's what I like to imagine.

Because not only was the ending really bad, apart from still a few laughs, but Jane's appearance was really badly written and unrealistic. My view is that the final scenes we saw, were all from each of their minds as they died and imagined being rescued.

Jay. Jane didn't know Jay was there, and hardly seemed surprised to see him. No, "oh my god. Jay! And you guys! What on Earth are you doing here?" And Jay then confesses his love. But she didn't seem to really care that he was out here. It was like seeing a drunk friend in a street who you see every day and then helping them up and taking them back home.

Will. Gilbert turning out to be the one who Will's mom is actually seeing. That would be a nightmare, and he even mentions is he dead and living in Hell.

Simon. Lucy breaks up with him, which is what he would want as he still finds it hard to break up with her.

Neil. Well, Neil got the attractive elder lady again, and had the most 'happy' thought.

And the bits of them travelling are all part of them being friends again, and happy to travel with each other. You could say if they were dying they would see good things, and not chick with dicks in Thailand, but they just wanted to be rescued. They all thought of Jane rescuing them, and the possibilities afterwards. And as he knows he is dying, he thinks about who it could be who his mom was, and it is his worst fear is Mr Gilbert becoming his step-dad.

[–] outlaw82 11 years ago

You're looking way to deeply into an 'Inbetweeners' movie lol.

[–] barneygumble 11 years ago

It's not Shakespeare. Anyone taking an existential view on an Inbetweeners film needs to get out more.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

He never actually wanted his plays studied. He did it just for the money. Sadly unlike nowadays, people don't really have to work very hard to get money, or even make a movie, that will still bring in an audience. *cough* Transformers.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

I'm sorry that I interpreted that camera move into the sun and the white-fade out so much into them all dying and the final scenes were their imaginations. As I wanted a better excuse for the bad ending we got.

[–] MisterMarston 11 years ago

I'm 110% with you on this one buddy. Obviously they didn't die - but I'm going to join you in thinking they did.

I heard the cast being interviewed on Radio 2 yesterday and someone asked them "will there be an Inbetweeners 3?" and they all said in unison "oh no, no no. You'll be able to tell from the ending of this film that everything is wrapped up." So when I watched it in the cinema tonight and they all held hands and accepted their fate - a la Toy Story 3 - I thought it was a fantastic, brave and postmodern way to end a comedy series. I'd have been much happier with that conclusion, it would have been bittersweet, they all went together having finally had a "proper" adventure as I think they called it.

Instead the ending was really badly written and slowed to a halt.

I think the real reason this didn't have a patch on the first was for that specific moment. It's hard in a film like Inbetweeners to have any sentimental moments because they don't tend to fit in well after all the rude jokes. In the first film, the sentimental moment was definitely Neil's "God is dog backwards", which was both moving and still hilarious. In this one, the sentimental scene wasn't funny and because they didn't actually die it was basically pretty pointless. A waste of time.

Never mind though, still a funny film.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

I saw another interview and they said the exact same thing. Like they knew for definite. Which was a reason why I thought what I did. But they obviously couldn't admit it and why.

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

The whole point of the ending wasn't Jayne, but the lads finally bonding when they think they're about to die.

It was their Toy Story 3 moment.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

I never said it wasn't to do with them bonding. But when Jane actually appeared properly, it was done really bad. Like she didn't care that they were there and that it was no surprise to her. Just because it was supposed to be about them bonding, does not mean it should have been a badly written scene with a character appearance after half of the film has been leading up to it.

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

It wasn't done badly at all. Jayne was simply a macguffin. A plot device to get the characters into a situation where they had to realise what they meant to each other. The fact that the scene with Jayne didn't conform to the typical happy ending, that we see in every other comedy film, shows it wasn't badly done at all.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

Just because she was a MacGuffin does not mean the writers should bad lazily and quickly written her into it in the end to rescue them. She could instead have been so excited to see Jay, and he is about to ask her if they can go out again, but then he decides against it and says he's got to look after his friends.

I wasn't after a 'happy ending'. The same thing could have happened, and she was excited and surprised to see them instead of just it seeming like she expected to see them there. She could have gone "you were coming all this way to see me?" and Jay asks her out and she still rejects him.

The movie ended suddenly, the 'MacGuffin' for half of the movie was anti-climatic if you will, where she could have cared a little more that they were dehydrated in the desert, instead of it seeming she just bumped into them on a street. It's really not that hard.

And you say that it's good that the ending wasn't like every other comedy film. What you really mean is it's good that it wasn't like a rom com, where the guy gets the girl in the end or vise versa. But as this is a film about guys going on holiday with their own personal quests, the obvious ending is they will always be friends at the end. Like, The Hangover. Most buddy cop films. 21 Jump Street, Lethal Weapon. Rush Hour. Even Billy Elliot. His dad accepts him in the end.

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

Without wanting to sound rude, you seem to have completely missed the point of the film. She wasn't lazily written into it, at all. She wasn't important. Jay thinks this girl is his world, but after bonding with his buds, he realises what's important.

Both Inbetweeners films do that thing were they show what would really happen in certain situations, instead of what films normally do. Like in the first film with the crappy apartment and the drunk guy asking for money all the time.

In this film, Jayne acted the way a girl probably would in reality, instead of how it would happen in a film.

You say she should have cared more, yet they already established that they'd only been out there for 2 hours and were exaggerating being near 'deaths door'.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

Without wanting to sound rude, I don't think you understand what I am saying at all. She is a MacGuffin. Like you said. And they are important as they lead a film, either all the way or just at a certain bit. I am not saying she should have fallen back in love with him and they danced off into the sunset together. Please tell me where I said that he does not realise he is happy with his friends?

What you mentioned about the first film. The crappy apartment was funny. And so was the drunk guy. But he appeared in it several times through the movie, and even though less important than Jane was in this film, he still had a tiny ark. You can even tell Neil thought he was strange.

You said that Jane acted the way in this film that a girl properly would in reality. So are you saying, that in real life, a girl takes her horse out for a ride in the desert, and would not care or be surprised that her ex-boyfriend and his friends are there? It's the middle of nowhere. In a dangerous place. Where people can and will likely die if alone. I know you said she should have cared more, but only the man said they were there for two hours. How does he even know? Is he an expert on dehydration and sunburns? And he can tell by the way there were acting it was only two hours? That doesn't matter. But Jane, still should have acted more surprised and cared at seeing them. It is not like bumping into a friend in town one night. It was the middle of nowhere, where you would least expect to see someone you know.

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

You're basically questioning the quality of writing because the character didn't do what you wanted, or what you would have done!

Bit silly.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

And as you accused me of not understanding the film, you do not understand what I am saying.

But please forgive me for finding it very strange that a person does not seem surprised to see her ex-boyfriend in the middle of nowhere, and then speaks to him like she only saw him yesterday, and did not really seem to care that her ex-boyfriend and his friends were dehydrated and if they were not found would have likely died.

I guess you are used to dangerous situations and bump into old pals regularly into large uncharted rain forests exploring while on holiday, so that explains why you can't seem to understand what I am saying, and in essence relate to her because of this.

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

I understand perfectly, your issue. My issue is...It's not bad writing. Her reaction is actually quite realistic. Something tells me you need to garner a tad more life experience.

Edit...having just clicked on your profile and seen you are in fact only 20 years old, I fully stand by my observation stated above.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

You cannot judge me on my age. By your picture and your name I should guess maybe you think cats are evil, hence the little cat Hitler moustache. And your name sounds like some fisherman. Oh so you do understand my issue after finding everyday to avoid it and make up excuses to why the ending was good.

Have you had any experience in writing? What did you study at college and university?

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

Yes, I can judge your life experience on your age, yes.

Any experience in writing?

If you count, being a professional screenwriter and script doctor for 3 decades, then yes.

[–] DavidTL 11 years ago

I knew you'd say that.

You aren't actually the writer of this film are you? Or helped with it in anyway?

Professionally speaking, what movies have you been involved in? I presume it's not Transformers. If you don't want to give a list of them publicly I don't mind a PM. Or even not a list, a PM where we can change this banter into even possible discussions of screenwriting critique, which I as a student studying Media have always received an A/First for my script work. So there is experience there, even if it's just good grades. I am happy to discuss the half parody of soap opera in Twin Peaks. The grand wonders of Metropolis and how like Citizen Kane it was ahead of its time. How The Exorcist to most young people nowadays is laughable, while to original viewers was a terrifying experience. I myself are part of the 'young people' who don't find The Exorcist laughable, and instead actually do find it very chilling. I admit it has given me nightmares.

[–] Brippy_Smuppers 11 years ago

No I never worked on this film, i don't like to discuss things I've worked on, on here, due to the nature of trolls. In fact I have close friends who don't even know my pseudonym lol.

Funnily enough I was watching The Exorcist on SKY last might. Never ages.

[–] wcgcapone 8 years ago

Jane and the other people at the ranch said they heard about it on the news, which is still poor writing because how are 4 guys missing for 2 hours newsworthy?

[–] laurendorward-990-190608 11 years ago

She didn't care that they were there, and she obviously knew

[–] Birminghamukengland 11 years ago

Would like to think they all died so another one can't be made! What an anticlimax to a once a amazing series and first movie.