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I did not get it, who kidnapped Nick's brother?

posted 10 years ago by hongmeiyu30
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and nobody comes to rescue him at the end?

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[–] dvoulio-982-706904 10 years ago

Excuse me but what is "silly" about this movie ? This is probably one of the most horrifying, disturbing explorations of the dark side of humanity and you think it's "silly" ? Its makes "Seven" look like a TV serial !!

And "mean-spirited"... To whom ? The child molesters ?
Slightly better epithets would be "masterpiece", "nail-biting thriller", "superb non-hollywood stereotype acting", "haunting" !

[–] scorexboy 10 years ago

Totally agree with you this film is extremely dense and dark. It goes beyond any Holywood would ever dare to go.

Acting is great. The atmosphere it creates drags you in, so badly, it affects you in ways that only a masterpiece does.

Only complain is that the main character always try to go solo, and it made me crazy, considering, probably everyone that work with him will support his back, I was glad to see that this wasn´t like those films where "the hero" goes solo because everyone goes against him, this time I didn't felt it was the case and anyway he was trying to solve things by himslef, he could have saved his brother otherwise. Anyhow despite that bugging me halfway, this is the best Thriller I have seen this year.

[–] dvoulio-982-706904 10 years ago

...it affects you in ways that only a masterpiece does

absolutely ! You hit the nail on the head.. plus it's horribly real in that, in some scenes, the digust-edness of the environment ( those lofts with piss and garbage and filth ) attempts to put you inside the psyche of the perpetrator.. and it succeeds !

Great great film.. but I doubt it will be widely recognized. After you see it, you want to scuttle away, thoroughly ashamed of the baseness humans can descend to.
Sadly I suspect the reality of pedophile circles is not far removed. Belgium has a history of such crimes... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

[–] b7625676552 10 years ago

There aren't many countries who don't have a history with these crimes.

I think this film really shows how sick people are. And by sick i mean really mentally ill. Sadly stuff like this has been going on thru the ages and i gues it will never go away.

[–] nimish-s-dalal 10 years ago

This movie is based on the novel written by Mo Hayder. As per wiki this is a sequel. The first novel was Birdman, another gripping story similar to this with the same character Jack Caffery. Not sure if this story continues in the with giving a reasonable end to Ewan's fate. (Ewan is Jack's brother).
There are other five series which the author wrote post The Treatment featuring Jack Caffery.

(Sorry, English is not my primary language.)

Here's the wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Hayder

[–] lemmon 9 years ago

Having read the other books in the series helps. But I will not spoil it, only to say this, Ewan (Bjorn in the movie) was necessary to explain the motives behind Jack's (Nick in the movie) actions. Without that the scenes with Ewan (Bjorn in the movie) should have been cut. For people who have not read the book and there being no first movie, it will just make the movie more complicated.

[–] lomawood 10 years ago

I love how everyone is angry about timlin-4 trashing the movie and no one says anything about "why women shouldn't be taught to write". Are you *beep* kidding me? There are AMAZING women writers, both classical and modern, and Mo Hayder is one of them. Have you even read the book???

Don't ever judge a book (and a writer) by the movie adaptation. "The Treatment" is one of the best books I ever read, it's intense, scary and has great well developed characters. The movie is like a simplified version of it, it's almost silly next to the original material.

And going back to the women writers, I suggest you think before you speak... Jane Austen, Mary Shelley, the Brönte sisters, Emma Donoghue, Carol Rifka Brunt, Beatrix Potter, Kate Racculia, JK Rowling, Lois Lowry, Jeanette Winterson, Virginia Woolf, Agatha Christie, Alice Walker, Isabel Allende, Laura Esquivel, Sylvia Plath, Zelda Fitzgerald, Lionel Shriver, Murasaki Shikibu, Louise May Alcott, Edith Wharton, Harper Lee, Anne Rice, P.D. James, Kate Chopin, Edith Wharton, Willa Cather, Rebecca West, Willa Cather, Nella Larsen, Djuna Barnes, Zora Neale Hurston, Elizabeth Bowen, Daphne Du Maurier, Carson McCullers, Betty Smith, Kamala Markandaya, Patricia Highsmith, Ayn Rand, Shirley Jackson, Edna O’Brien, Muriel Spark, Madeleine L’Engle, Jean Rhys, Margaret Walker, Ursula K. LeGuin, Isabel Miller, Maya Angelou, Joan Didion, Toni Morrison, Flannery O’Connor, Eudora Welty, Erica Jong, Annie Dillard, Maxine Hong Kingston, Judith Guest, Leslie Marmon Silko, Toni Morrison, Octavia E. Butler, Marilynne Robinson, Joy Kogawa, Joyce Carol Oates... Should I go on?

(God, I bet you think George Eliot was a guy!)

I'm pretty sure timlin-4 won't reply to my post or, if he does, he'll say that I'm PMSing or that I should be in the kitchen making a sandwich or that I don't have a man and that's why I so angry, or something misogynist like that.

But it's ok. At least I not a narrow mind idiot like you.

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[–] Mortstiff 10 years ago

I agree that this was a disturbing film, but what disturbed me most was the behavior of the victim who, using a wire from her bra, relentlessly worked to dig a hole in the floor to see what was going on downstairs. I understand the compelling need to find out what happened to her husband and child, but wouldn't it have made more sense to use all that digging time more intelligently by trying to pry the lock of her handcuffs? I've never been imprisoned in handcuffs, so I can't say it's possible to manipulate a piece of wire as I suggest, but it was pretty long and probably possible.

[–] scoey50 10 years ago

What a stupid thing to say. Of course you can't use wire from a bra to pick the lock on handcuffs. Did you even think about what you were writing. That has to be one of the dumbest comments I have read on IMDB in a long time.

[–] Mortstiff 10 years ago

Thanks for your constructive comment, Einstein. So, Mr. Smartypants, you can dig a hole through a solid floor with the bra wire, but can't use same to tinker with the lock in a pair of handcuffs?

[–] therefdotcom 9 years ago

to asnwer your question: it is indeed possible to pick the lock of handcuffs with this kind of wire. actually that detail bothered me too.

[–] annseton 10 years ago

I agree. I'd be MacGyvering a way out of those handcuffs with my underwire bra.

[–] Doomblade 10 years ago

I didn't understand that, either. Also, why did it take her almost an entire day to actually do something about her situation?

[–] Guio 9 years ago

I think it's impossible to understand and/or to imagine our reaction if something out of the ordinary would happen to us. It's easy to find a solution when we're comfortably sitting in our couches or theatre seats... but try to figure it out handcuffed, shocked and frightened to the max.

[–] lennonforeveragain 9 years ago

Exactly!! Why didn't she try to pick the lock??!

Even a man,who is pure of heart,and says his prayers by night...

[–] venanttout 9 years ago

Modern cuffs aren't so easy to picK .old model could be easily tricked with wire, but recent ones needs lockpicking training. And good Tools.

[–] Soul_Snatcher 9 years ago

Nick's brother , i guess Bjorn(red indian nostalgia) should've been resued when police came to arrest Nancy.I dint get why didn't they find him.

Anyways at the end when Nick gives the tapes to Danni to make sure Nancy isn't set free shall initiate a chain of events in which police might still raid Nancy's home again after analysing the tapes to supposedly find more clues to nail her or find the possible more members of p-gang.

I guess this may lead to Nick finding Bjorn in near future.

[–] countergundlach 8 years ago

The cops didn't find him because she had him taken him away and hidden him in a trailer somewhere in the woods, not in her home.