The boy says this to the girl, presumably, to suggest the feeding dead mice to malnourished children. That things would get so bad that eating decaying mice would even be considered should be heart-wrenching and horrifying. Yet it elicits nothing more than a slight grimace of disgust from the girl. The girl seems more disgusted with having tar in her hair.
I don't remember the '87 movie much and I don't remember this line being said, but I do remember it giving a greater sense of the crappiness of the kids' situation than this movie, which seems all too blasé about such things as incest, being threatened with starvation and dying siblings.
I do remember it giving a greater sense of the crappiness of the kids' situation than this movie, which seems all too blasé about such things as incest, being threatened with starvation and dying siblings.
Well I don't recall whether that particular line was in the 87 film or not but I think in a way I think the horror of all that, has become their reality by that point. At first they were horrified to see their mother's wounds and to hear that they had to stay in the attic. But after a year or so you adjust and adapt. If you don't get enough food (and it's implied in the novel that they weren't fed properly even without the week of starvation as punishment) you eat what you can find, where you can find it. Eventually you get over the squeamishness. It's not an appealing prospect but all it warrants is an "ick" face.
I think they were far less blase over the death of their brother! That was what made they realize that they were in immediate danger and needed to get out ASAP. They certainly showed grief. They cried (especially his twin) and asked about a funeral. In the next scene Cathy tries to comfort Carrie and Chris says "just leave her alone" implying that she'll need her own time and space to grieve. His death also haunts them all in different ways throughout the sequels.
Regarding a blase attitude toward incest, I don't think the film takes one. Initially the kids do: but remember they think they're the product of an uncle and his half niece (they never know, nor do their parents that they were really siblings) which is a far less close biological relationship than the one that really exists. Still not healthy but not as bad! Also remember that the kids were kids hearing about this, in the 1950's (they weren't watching Maury Povitch on TV!). I don't know if they fully understood the taboo around relatives marrying. Chris, as the oldest, and being interested in medicine might have had some understanding but at 12, Cathy probably only partially understood (remember she was surprised to see her body changing during puberty and asked her other a lot of questions). They weren't worldly and media savvy in the way kids today are. And as for the twins, I doubt they understood it at all.
Later, when the relationship between Chris and Cathy begins to develop they aren't blase either. Chis says he tries not to look at her. That brothers and sisters shouldn't look at each other like that. After they have sex, he's horrified both the fact that they did it and the fact that he doesn't think he'll ever be able to love anyone but his sister. He makes some bitter joke about them joining the circus. Cathy is more pragmatic: her attitude is we can't undo the past, but we can make sure it never happens and again. That's not blase. She realizes it was wrong and she says that no one should ever find out about it.
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I agree. There was no real sense of the children suffering. At least the '87 film made them actually seem sick and the reactions to Cory's death were done a lot better.
The acting in general was poor. Such a disappointment.
Yeah, the horror of the children's plight was conveyed far better in the earlier movie.
On a different note, I'm also glad the '87 ditched the incest angle. That's a theme in this series and I can't imagine who why anyone would find that entertaining.
the incest angle was not merely put in there for entertainment or shock value.
One of the major themes of the series is how history repeats itself or how cycles can't be broken if the same mistakes are committed. The mistake here being how love and forgiveness are always discarded in favor of revenge, hate, greed and prejudice. The incest is a product of that mistake.
In the case of the Dollangangers, Corrine turned to Chris Sr. for love since she grew up in a stifling environment with none of the adults in her world able to express love and affection in a healthy way. Coercion, corporeal punishment and possessive attachment is how Malcolm and Olivia demonstrated obedience and submission can be gained. Forgiveness and mercy is not an option. There was no real expression of love in that household. Until Chris Sr. comes in the house to live with them and the two young kids fall in love with each other. They escape Foxworth Hall thinking they can prove Malcolm and Olivia wrong by raising their own family with love. The total opposite of their life in Foxworth Hall. But we all know that all ended when Chris Sr. died in a car crash.
Now, to the generation of Chris Jr. and Cathy in Foxworth Hall. Like Corrinne and Chris Sr., again the adults in Chrs Jr. and Cathy's world are in no shape and form capable of showing love, mercy or forgiveness. They experience the hate and prejudice of Olivia and Malcolm to a degree more intense than what their parents experienced. Worse, their own mother eventually chooses money and a new husband over their own welfare. Again, the adults are unforgiving (Olivia and Malcolm) ang unable to show any kind of genuine love (Corrine) to the children. Isolated from the rest of the world, it's no mystery that Chris and Cathy turn to each other for emotional support and comfort. Again, the incest happened as a product of hateful circumstances created by the adults.
In addition, Cathy, when she becomes an adult, like a mini-female version of Malcolm, goes on a rampaging road to revenge and in doing so hurts many people in the process. Her own revenge spurs on another generation of a vindictive child with a dysfunctional relationship with his siblings and parents.
***WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE WHOLE SERIES*****
The cycle is only broken, ironically, by Cathy and CHris jr. raising Cathy's children as a pretend married couple in a family with genuine love. It doesn't happen instantly. It takes more than 30 years of family life if my calculation is correct before any kind of peace and the hateful cycle of revenge and incest are broken in the Dollanganger family.
Cathy's child from her revenge lover, Bart jr. is almost always on the brink of becoming another psychotic Malcolm out for revenge and unforgiving hate because of Chris and Cathy's relationship. He resents his mother but his hate is firmly targeted at Chris Jr. But in returning Bart jr.s hate and resentment with patient paternal love instead of revenge and unforgiving judgment, Bart jr. eventually sees the error of his ways when Chris Jr. dies. The threat of the emergence of another Malcolm through Bart jr. is stopped. Bart is filled with regret for not returning Chris Jr's sincere efforts to care and love for him as a father before his death. In being the recipient of genuine paternal love (from Chris jr.), Bart. jr learns to forgive Cathy and Chris and in doing so, finally breaks the cycle that has plagued the Dollanganger family.