no renewal yet
Getting kind of nervous. Because this show needs at least one, maybe two more seasons, to wrap up, in my opinion.
shareDidn't realize its ratings have been bad until you mentioned it. Looking at the list of cable ratings, it still does better than any of the currently running scripted shows and its DVR ratings are good so I don't think we have to worry. But as I've said before, people should try to watch legally when they can, because if no one supports these quality shows... we will be stuck watching Basketball Wives and Vanderpump Rules.
shareAgreed. And with three seasons in, and being of their renowned Breaking Bad brand, I really don't see them giving this show the axe unceremoniously, but ya never know.
shareWhen you say, watch it legally, do you mean watch when it airs? Does a show get ratings "credit" if one watches it as a DVR? I love this show. I'd hate to see it end due to poor ratings but I never watch it live. I agree too with your prediction that we'll be stuck with some loathsome choices if quality shows don't get good ratings. The networks are proof of that. Who watches that garbage? I can only think of one network show I watched this year-American Crime. I really try but there's nothing good going on there.
shareMany young kids have "cut the cord" which means they don't pay for cable but either wait for the show to come on Netflix or find a pirate version on the internet. Shows like Game of Thrones and even Saul have millions of viewers that don't pay to watch them so even if their ratings are down, plenty are still watching.
shareMost of those pirate websites edit out the commercials, so those views shouldn't have any weight on the economic decision to renew a series.
Just remember.... the ONLY reason that ratings matter is for advertising sales.
But as I've said before, people should try to watch legally when they can, because if no one supports these quality shows...
Personally I try to do that, but the thing is that it only airs a couple times a week and at inconvenient hours for me. So, probably half of every season I get to see on TV, and the other half I have to watch online. AMC just makes it difficult because they barely air reruns.
I sure hope the show won't get cancelled. share
AMC has a website... and also DVRs give credit for viewing... there are lots of legal options to support the show.
But I'm not trying to guilt trip everyone... I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation. Why would spon sors want to pay to advertise something that no one legally watches? Young kids are so passionate about not destroying the environment and go out of their way to recycle and use sustainable products... yet for some reason care nothing about sustaining the artists lifestyles whether it's film, music or even writing. Everything's an ecosystem... including content... hopefully we learn in all categories before it's too late.
As far as I know, you watching legally doesn't affect a show's rating, unless you are a part of the representative sample that Nielsen (or another company) collects data on. If you don't have a device attached to your TV, or are not contacted by someone, how would networks know that you're watching?
So in that regard, watching illegally does little to the show, as far as ratings go. Which is what networks care about when looking to renew it. That's separate from the issue of paying for it, by watching ads or paying fees (not entirely, but it gets to complicated for me from there).
I'm not sure how the delayed viewing works, in terms of the ratings.
So, unless you have a Neilsen box, there's nothing you can do about the ratings really, as far as I'm aware. And if you're not from the US, it becomes a whole nother thing.
It didn't years ago, but I'm sure it does now... everyone including cable companies data mines you. If they have a recommended for you function... then they know what you are watching.
If you are someone who uses an over the air antenna set up... then yeah it probably doesn't matter.
I guess you're right about the data mining... But I did say it was as far as I knew :)
In any case, I doubt I can do much from Europe, even if I do watch it on AMC CE.
Just a quick question. Does AMC run ads in the US? (I'm asking out of curiosity)
Yes, but I use a DVR so I can control that part. (I actually will watch some ads to support the sponsors... I even enjoy them if they are about another show or movie that I might want to see in the future) What I wish is that they'd make them shorter... or give an option to watch all of them in one clump like Hulu sometimes does... when they are long and frequent, I tend to FF through everything.
shareWhen an ad break comes along I usually change the channel. There are only so many diarrhea medication and loan commensals I can handle. But it's interesting that we don't get ads on AMC during a movie/show, just between (and only of things their airing). Maybe it's counted in some premium package here...
Anyway, hopefully they'll renew the show for a few more seasons. It'll be a shame if they don't get to finish this story (mainly for the new characters, since we kinda know what happens with Saul and Mike, etc.).
I'm pretty sure the show is safe... the only reason I commented was because the OP mentioned it and when I looked up the ratings it surprised me that they were low.
One thing that sucks about the American ratings is that the educated people know how to pirate better than the less educated... so shows like the Walking Dead (which I still like) will get much better ratings than something like Mad Men or Better Call Saul... Almost all the highly rated cable shows are things like the Real Housewives, Kardashians, or shows about house flipping. This sadly will probably be the future of TV over here.