Nacho and the pill! - Better Call Saul (2015) Discussion

[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

Yes I think he's going to empty out that pill and refill it with some kind of poison. Maybe just refill it with speed. OD of speed can cause a stroke.

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[–] orangeflava (1862) 8 years ago

i hope we see when and how it happens this season

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

It seemed like he was just filling them with ground up ibuprofen. That is weird, it would not normally kill a person or give them a stroke. it's just Advil.
Maybe he knows Hector is allergic to it or something? But an allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) is fairly distinctive and recognizable.
I think hector took some of the pills last night but we didn't see anything happen to him as a result.
And then after he took the pills, nacho told his dad to cooperate with the men that would come to his shop, which makes me think that Hector was still alive and healthy if he was still planning to use nacho's dad's business.

Although, Don Eladio told them on the phone that they should ONLY use Gus' method for smuggling from now on, so why is Hector still going forward with his smuggling plan involving upholstery leather from Nacho's dad's shop?

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[–] winslow (1318) 7 years ago

The pills were something that he would take when he got chest pains; like a vasodilator that can help stop a heart attack or stroke. Switching them with ibuprofen would allow his heart anomaly to continue. A single heart episode may not have been bad enough to cause a stroke, but eventually one will. Also I think Gus may have some knowledge of this plan via Mike, which is why Gus is doing things to get Hector worked up.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

Hmm, his pills were just for chest pain, it's more for a comfort factor, but the pain doesn't always turn into a real heart attack. he will be in pain longer but that might not result in anything life threatening.
I expected he'd put something more dangerous inside the pills. he might as well have filled them with sugar.

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[–] Terrygg (544) 8 years ago

I don't know but I think Hector babies Tuco way too much for any of Hector's actions to be believable at this poibt especially regarding Mike's subplot.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 8 years ago

Mike has some good tips on poisoning hector. Switch the pills back after!
I wonder what drug they are going to put in the pills? We know it does not kill him but I hope he suffers.

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[–] [deleted] 8 years ago

My ideal would be to put some finely ground crack in them or speed as you say above as yes he was in a palsy type state in Breaking Bad, the heart attack would cause enough damage. Then add in what the crack or speed is doing to him and how emergency medical would read his vitals due to it, plus it would appear as a side effect of the business he's in.

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[–] winslow (1318) 7 years ago

In Breaking Bad, Walt made a mistake by not switching the ricin back after it had served its purpose to turn Jesse against Gus.

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[–] cniclas (7) 7 years ago

To which scene are you refering? IMO, there was no mistake from walt. walt didnt have to switch back the ricin cigarette into jesse's pack. He prepared a faked ricin-cigarette and put it into jesse's roomba. They searched jesse's house and at last jesse opened that roomba and found it. That solved the mystery for him. Switching back the cigarette into jesse's cigarette pack makes no sense as the narrative was, that Gus stole it to poison the boy with its ricin. On the contrary, if the ricin cigarette would suddenly be in the pack again after jesse looked for it everywhere it would have made him suspiscous and he would have realized that somebody (meaning walt) is playing him.
As it turned out that the boy was poisoned with lily of the valley, jesse was troubled that he might have lost the cigarette somewhere. Thats when walt prepared his fake and conveniently put it in the roomba for jesse to find. The real ricin cigarette was in walts possession the whole time after Huell stole it.
Much later in the season, Huell lifted jesse's weed bag out of his pocket, because saul did not want jesse to be high when he meets the disappearer guy. While jesse waited for the car, he realized that Huell had snatched out the bag without jesse noticing. jesse then deducted that this might have also have happened with his cigarette pack and the ricin cigarette.
If there was a mistake, then it was saul's by ordering huell to lift something out of jesses pocket again.

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[–] PeteyandJia (300) 8 years ago

That's what they want us to think, but this show is rarely so predictable, so I think it's going to end up being more complicated than that.

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[–] The LA Baker (971) 8 years ago

I doubt this is a red herring. Too much screen time has been invested setting it up.

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[–] Kingscheme (66) 7 years ago

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[–] Kingscheme (66) 7 years ago

Nacho is just filling the capsules with ibuprofen, so when Hector needs his heart pills he will be shit out of luck.

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[–] AtomicReturns (1252) 7 years ago

The latest episode was very tense. Who knew a bottle of pills could be so suspenseful? But BCS does such a great job setting up scenes like this. They first remind us how powerful, dangerous and unpredictably scary the big bosses are, and how any attack on them comes with the greatest risk. You come at the King, you best not miss.

I just don't get why Nacho had to practice throwing the pills into the jacket's pocket. That is very risky (if he missed, it's all over, as you cannot explain why pills ended up in your hands). Why not get a cup of coffee (as he did) and as he's laying it down on the table, slyly slip the pills into the pocket?

But then, there is a chance Hector Salamanca would not want another cup of coffee, which would've ruined Nacho's plan, so I guess I answered my own question as to why Nacho opted for the "pill-throwing technique."

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