You've got to be kidding me. Is this *beep* seriously snapping at him about him cheating?! Is this b*tch for *beep* real?! HOW entitled, egocentric and self absorbed is she that she doesn't realize the only reason he cheated, was because she broke his heart and took a sh*t in his soul by cheating first? That's like shooting somebody and then getting mad if they shoot back
shareShe seemed a bit upset...
shareI think it had to do more with her trying to figure out if it's really true or the guy was just messing with her. She wanted to see his reaction and judge by that.
On the other hand she's just been through hell and targeted and held hostage because of her husband so obviously she was stressed out, like everybody else would be in a situation like this. She was injured already and could have been raped or killed because of her husband's dishonesty. No need for calling her a bitch, you only made a statement about yourself.
good description of why she acted that way, totally agree. its not that black and white as some people see it. she just wanted to start conversation about it so she mentioned his cheating in hopes that he would mention hers in response(her hypocrisy was obvious so its hard to help oneself from saying something). that would mean that finely they were talking about it and making first steps towards repairing relationship. nothing to say other than that its good writing with good dialogues
only thing that i dont get it is why his friends loan was Quarry's problem? he helped the guy once and it didnt work out. he didnt make any deals with Broker. didnt have or spend the money, why was it his problem? problem just seems artificially made for plots sake
You've got to be kidding me. Is this *beep* seriously snapping at him about him cheating?! Is this b*tch for *beep* real?! HOW entitled, egocentric and self absorbed is she that she doesn't realize the only reason he cheated, was because she broke his heart and took a sh*t in his soul by cheating first? That's like shooting somebody and then getting mad if they shoot back
Bingo!!!
shareWhat was the redhead's name?
shareMore or less what I was thinking. Unless he plans to deny cheating forever he should have said "I was so devastated over you *beep* some guy the entire time I was in Nam that I found solace with a woman who actually cares about me you damn dirty whore."
shareNot to mention seeing it with his own eyes a couple of nights earlier, in his own house, in his own bed and that he only cheated because she did!!
No excuse for her reactions, regardless of what she'd just been through. Her actions caused his! Period, end of story.
I find it disturbing how men take his side and agree that she is the worse out of the two. She did one bad thing - the cheating, to which he replied with cheating and killing the other man and all you can say is that she did it first to justify his actions? How effed up is your thinking?
I mean just because she did it first doesn't excuse him from the vows he took as well and still apply to him no matter what the other person has done. If he would have stopped here I would say fair is fair although it's a very immature and not effective way to solve marital problems. But adding to it Cliff's murder and the fact that he almost got his wife killed because she had no clue that her husband was a professional hit-man because his dishonesty and decisions put her in danger, now that's bad.
well technically it was an accident, didn't you hear?
episode 4 was the biggest filler with mass hysterical drama which annoyed the hell out of me, have enough of that crap on my own and they had to shove that Munich 1972 crap while they were at it
if it wasn't for the redeeming ending it would be the worst episode so far and here i thought they gonna drag that cripple for another several episodes
 Give me a break moron.
share1. Killing Cliff was not a "bad thing"; it was perfectly justified.
2. I agree that his adultery was a "bad thing", but (a) the scope of it was nowhere near that of hers and (b) it may even be argued that her breach of their vows nullifies any obligations he had as a result of those vows; in any case, it surely must count as mitigating circumstances.
Thus she is much worse.
I find it disturbing how men take his side and agree that she is the worse out of the two. She did one bad thing - the cheating, to which he replied with cheating and killing the other man and all you can say is that she did it first to justify his actions? How effed up is your thinking?
But adding to it Cliff's murder and the fact that he almost got his wife killed because she had no clue that her husband was a professional hit-man because his dishonesty and decisions put her in danger, now that's bad.
I'd like to add a couple of things to yours.
She was cheating on him the hole time and he never cheated on her in Nam. Almost all the Nam Vets say that cheating was rampant with prostitutes. That took a lot of will power and faithfulness from him.
To be fair he didn't want to be an assassin. His buddy dragged him into it. He got stuck with a raw deal and if he didn't murder his wife's lover his wife and his buddy's family would be in danger. That is some pretty simple calculus by itself, but if you throw in the fact that he had just witnessed something emotionally distressing you could call it a crime of passion. That makes it a no-brainer.
Ok then list the things each of them have done so far:
Jodi:
1.)Cheated-didn't tell about cheating, husband found out from his hit-man squad
Mac:
1.)Found out about his wife's cheating-as a reaction killed the other man(Cliff)+been passive-aggressive/aggressive around Jodi
2.)Cheated on his wife as well-didn't tell about it, wife found out from a man who held her hostage because of his actions, then made sure about it's happening by asking her husband and seeing his reaction
3.)Became a hit-man, but a crappy one at it despite he just arrived from war where he did the same thing-didn't tell about it to his wife despite knowing that the guy who was after him saw his face and knew he would be after him-the man found out about his identity before Mac did and to get to him he acted as Mac's friend from the military, beat up his wife, cut her and wrote a message to Mac with her blood, held her hostage, threatened her life, made indications about raping her.
So again why am I a moron for pointing out that he did more bad things than her?
The person who said that killing Cliff was justified would you do the same thing if it happened to you? How can you mention cheating and killing on the same page when cheating is something that people can work through but killing s irreversible, so how can you compare the two things? Also why take it out on the man who owed nothing to him? Cliff wasn't the one who took vows to be faithful to him... How can you look at his action as justified if it didn't provide justice at all and was an illegal act?