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He's no Skywalker

posted 8 years ago by labarr_mark
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Was awesome to hear Rex say to Saw yeah but he's no Skywalker! Then Kannan was like I heard that! Looking forward to the rest of the season!

[–] ByOdinsBeard 8 years ago

It begs the question: Does Rex know Skywalker became Vader? If not, what does he think became of Anakin? We as the audience obviously know what happened, but I've always wondered if everyone else in the galaxy like civilians and the like knew. Do they just think Anakin died or what?

[–] guy41 8 years ago

I do not think the majority people know what became of Skywalker. As so many of the Jedi perished over the years, it'd be easy to assume he fell victim as well. There were few to no witnesses who heard him addressed as Darth Vader.

There was a good youtube video, however, that analyses whether or not Tarkin knew his true identity. It's worth a look.

[–] justinboggan 8 years ago

Could we maybe be misinterpreting the quote and Rex was saying "sky walker", as in he he leaps so high it's like he's walking in the sky? A little to the audience.

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[–] the_bamboo_spear 8 years ago

I'm pretty sure it was a direct reference to Anakin Skywalker.

"Aren't you a little strong for a lady? I'm calling wang..."

[–] moondawg_32304 8 years ago

The Empire knows who he is. Word would have made the rounds on the down low for lack of better phrasing. But Ahsoka not knowing and the Rebels also not knowing seems that info would have been lost in time.

[–] Godzilla1981 8 years ago

I wouldn't think that most in the Empirial ranks would know. There would be no benefit to them knowing, in the eyes of the Emperor, and they don't need to know. Anakin was arguably the most well known Jedi in the Clone Wars era, certainly THE top hero of the Republic during that time. He was infamous. But as far as most people are concerned, he either just disappeared, or was killed in the Jedi Purge.

[–] roosterq 8 years ago

I would assume it was assumed by nearly everyone that Anakin died in the great purge. The only 2 characters that know the truth are Obi Wan and Yoda. I doubt they were planning to let people know that a (former) Jedi is responsible for all the damage either.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

[–] Andthatismytwocents 8 years ago

Asoka learned later on

[–] roosterq 8 years ago

Forgot about that, but she really wasn't sure or at least didn't want to believe it until the last episode of season 2. That being said while I have little doubt she survived that fight with Vader, but I'm not so sure we will get a chance to see her again in the future.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

[–] justinboggan 8 years ago

Of course she survived -- she was seen walking int othe temple as Vader was walking away from it. rumor is we'll find out this season more. Further, one of the voice actors for the show has stated Feloni has already planned on what happens with her, so all that Feloni balony about not knowing and being unsure -- he's bullcrapping us for fun.

Withholding her for a while, giving her room to do something, bringing her back, and planning things out combined with he's been talking with the producers on the films, leads me to beleive there's more in store for her character later on outside of Rebels.

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[–] roosterq 8 years ago

This is what I suspect, but I never am too sure where Hollywood is concerned. They can change their mind in an instant and just leave her hanging out on that planet with no way off.

It's a bit like how she was done in TCW. She just all the sudden up and walks away. They could have shown her in some post padawan adventures or something. She was a fan favorite, and IMHO severely underused. Hopefully she gets screen time in one of the spinoff movies they're making now. I know she will never be in one of the episodic movies, but a live action Ahsoka would be awesome.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

[–] Lord_Ackbar 8 years ago

No.

Only people who knew who Vader was were Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Palpatine. Tarkin also had a sneaking suspicion

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[–] action_on_deck 8 years ago

I think It likely that Bail Organa knew. I'd have to think that Yoda and ObiWan told him. Obviously Asoka found out as well. Some of the troopers that took him on Mustafar may know, and it's possible Palpatine told some advisors, but there's no evidence to directly point that out.

But you are very much correct that only a handful of people in the Galaxy know who Vader really is.

[–] Jeorj Euler 8 years ago

I think It likely that Bail Organa knew.

Yes. And Vader's private physician probably knows as well. It's just a handfull of characters.

[–] flashm-84381 8 years ago

Dunno about this... Obi Wan didn't find out the connection between Vadar and Anakin into years and years into seclusion on Tantatine. So if he didn't know until he put the pieces together through the rumor mill at the Cantine then no, he didn't tell Bail Organa anything.

Not sure how Yoda knows other than that he's Yoda and yea only a handful of people would otherwise know. I see no indication that Rex or any other of the 501st would know about Anakin/Vadar.

[–] skoobaba 8 years ago

The clone troopers would know Anakin = Vader. He lead a whole squadron into the jedi temple for that massacre in episode 3. Soldiers talk. That story would have spread like wildfire.

[–] Leklor 8 years ago

Or, you know, the brainwashed, chip-implanted cloned soldiers were ordered/forced to keep it quiet?
Since Rex doesn't know and he was part of the 501st at that time, obviously it never leaked.
And don't bother, the facts are there: No other clones know, those from Operation: Knightfall either didn't talk or weren't believed. That's just how it is.

[–] skoobaba 8 years ago

Them being ordered not to say a word isn't a fact. It is not mentioned in the movies at all. That makes it your own little theory, and not a fact.

As others in this thread have replied (without making stuff up like you do), that Anakin fell to the dark side is common knowledge, but that he is Vader isn't. Perfectly reasonable replies. And they didn't have to make up anything extra to defend a cartoon for children.

[–] Leklor 8 years ago

The fact that I mentionned isn't that they might have been ordered to shut.
It was that Anakin being Vader wasn't common knowledge even to Clones of his personal unit (The 501st).
And from that fact I offered several possible explanation as to why that how this is. No facts were made up.
Your reading comprehension seems to be inversely proportional to your dishonesty and desire for trolling.

EDIT: Defend a cartoon for children? You realize there were accusisations towards ROTS of creating a plot-hole because Anakin is already named and adressed as Darth Vader by Palpatine before Operation Knightfall? If anything, I'm giving a reason as to why no Stormtrooper and indeed no one in the Empire knows of Vader's identity in ANH and later. Or why it's treated as a massive revelation that destroy's Leia's political career in "Bloodline".

[–] skoobaba 8 years ago

Nope. You made stuff up to defend poor writing. Yet again.

Anakin being named Darth Vader before Operation Knightfall is not a plot-hole. It is a continuity error at most. I think you need to look up what plot-hole actually means.

[–] Leklor 8 years ago

What exactly did I make up? Making (relatively) logical assumptions (That the Knightfall Clones were silenced, coerced or just loyal to the death.) to explain FACTS (that Anakin was never outed as Vader despite having been name such before Knightfall and being adressed as such during it.) is by no way making stuff up.

Oh and FYI: a continuity error can often lead to a plot-hole. Regarding the definition: "In fiction, a plot hole, plothole or plot error is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Such inconsistencies include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline."
Wikipedia is truly a wonderful thing. Or will you accuse me of having edited the page to prove you wrong?

EDIT: Also, when your are referring to "defending bad writing", you are talking about "Rex should know Anakin is Vader because Clones would have talked", right? Well you're wrong even there. Rex was on Mandalore during Order 66 and defected mere hours after the Order was given (Had already extracted his chip at this point) and helped Ahsoka escape. He never returned to the Grand Republic Army after that and would as such have no contact with any Clone participating in Operation: Knightfall. Wolffe being the only deserter with his mind intact might have heard something but he's not around during Season 2 and if Gregor once knew the truth, he's far too crazy to remember. So again, that was adressed before you made your complaint and you couldn't be bothered to check it out.

[–] jagreene630 8 years ago

The story would have spread that Anakin fell to the dark side, not that he's Vader. It was Palpatine that personally went to recover Anakin from Mustafar so for all we know the story went that Anakin died there and Vader was someone else. Also remember, at that time no one really went by their sith names if they were supporting dual identities. Darth Sidious was always referred to as the emperor or Palpatine, Darth Tyrannus was typically referred to as Count Dooku. It wouldn't be hard in terms of the story to suggest that Anakin and Vader were seen to many as different people.

[–] jeffb3333 8 years ago

It wouldn't be hard in terms of the story to suggest that Anakin and Vader were seen to many as different people.

Agreed. Especially since Vader talks about Anakin in the third person in the OT. Palpatine speaks like they're two different people too.

[–] roosterq 8 years ago

The Clone troopers only thought Anikin had defected from the Jedi warned the Emperor of the supposed turn of the Jedi against the Republic, so they were just following the orders of their assigned General just as before. Anikin was not being addressed as Lord Vader by the troopers, and once he was left for dead on Mustafar, only Palpatine would have known he survived to become the Vader we know.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

[–] Jeorj Euler 8 years ago

Soldiers talk.

Not clone troopers.

[–] daviddevilliers54 8 years ago

Lol! I thought you were hating on Ezra because of his similarities to Luke Skywalker.