A couple of questions.. (spoilerz)

Thanks!

There was a quick scene after the reunion between Jonah and Nic, where we saw that the back of Haley's neck had a little metal thingy in it - I took that as proof that they experimented on her. As for the "above ground" people, I think it as Haley that caused them to go crazy. Sure, the old lady was all weird and stuff, but after contact with Haley is the first instance of her getting stuck, and the truck driver was acting perfectly rational until after his contact with Haley.

I think the point is that Nic is for some reason not very affected by this alien contact, at least not in a similar way to Haley, and because of this is the prime focus of Damon's research.

This are my exact thoughts on the film.

Escpecially the other people having been previous abducteed, that were being used to populate the simulation to observe the main experimentees when they "escape".

don't put mit on a pedestal, kid. if they wanted geniuses, they'd have abducted hawking or penrose, not troll cyberspace for script kiddies.

the other people in the simulation don't exist. this is obvious, or did you not pay attention when the sim broke and he ended up in reality on a deserted spaceship?

I think w/ the girl they were testing her in her dreams. She had mentioned dreams and since she was in a coma and they altered her brain or spine in some way that's my conclusion.

Life's tough, it's tougher if you're stupid.

"When Fishburne says <I can't protect you up there,> IMHO he doesn't seem the surface of the sim, but rather outside the sim. He's the alien R&D doctor who is fascinated by the humans and giving them alien tech. It's probably that the other aliens want to run tests that humans wouldn't like, i.e., just dissecting them up. They might want to see if there is anything in their brains, DNA or bodies that makes them different than the morons they picked up. But I digress... "

Or maybe it's just another part of the role he played. I mean, if we go back to believing, just for a while, that they're actually on Earth, you could easily imagine what would happen if someone with alien-tech-robotic-leg-prosthesis went out to meet other people.

Also, I'm not quite sure about the part in which the 'morons' (not geniuses) were tested in the same manner our trio was. I mean, I'm not sure they did have any alien-tech-prosthetics installed. Or at least they didn't show any. Still, what was the reason for that?

Well, except it wasn't aliens, That was the big twist, the spaceship thing was made by people. You know this because of the human numbers written on the outside of the ship. adds up to area 51.

It's what sets it apart from movies like &quot;Dark City&quot;. Basically it is original because we find out that the alien stuff is all bull, the 'bad guys' are just human made robots. The experiments are most likely for Wargames, due to the fact that they were pushing them to escape, and when the guy was able to 'get out' he got let in on the big secret. The kid with the new legs will probably be beamed back to earth to beat up on the terrorist or something. Or maybe work for the INS, lol, as a boarder patrol. He would do good chasing after 'jumpers', LMAO....

I agree with most of your assessment, since the movie on the whole seemed pretty easy to understand, aside from any real, logical reason for the existence of the earth simulation complete with local yokels, who are obviously eliminated once they come in contact with any escaped lab rats. We differ in the reason for the use of the signal, as I think it was designed to attract not necessarily more intelligent human specimens, but more secretive, subversive human specimens, who were less likely to tell anyone what they were doing and where they were going, and therefore harder to find when they disappeared. But the movie is also structured so that almost any rationalization for what we've seen is acceptable.




Revenge is a dish that best goes stale.

I think you have explained everything very well except for one thing - motive. Here is my understanding of the motive.

The Alien doctor or the aliens as a whole want to test the power of extreme emotional feelings in humans. By their nature, the aliens are very calm and collected( As seen in the movie) and they are curious about why and how humans are so driven by their emotions. So they create all sorts of simulation and false settings to make the hero "agitated". Starting with the forced lockdown in a wierd hospital setting and the separation from his girlfriend to the struggle to reach somewhere in a barren setting, all made the hero go over the edge and finally they got to see in action "the perfect integration of human will and alien technology" i.e. they got to see the hero running at superhuman speeds. All these simulations were done to bring out the most agitated part of the human psyche. Similarly, the soldiers could have killed Jonah while he was hiding, but they purposefully hemmed in on him to trigger extreme reactions from him and it was evident in the way he smashed the land causing collapse and mayhem.

The girl was i think used as a tool to trigger these reactions in these 2 guys.

When Fishburne says "I can't protect you up there,"

thanks i agree with almost every point you said

No, it was definitely aliens. The numbers written on the outside of the "ship" simply match the numbers tattooed on their arms, which in turn are only Arabic numbers so as not to give away the final twist too soon. Only aliens would confuse Nic's agitated outburst as having been caused by the shape of the blocks or the color of the blocks. Plus, in the final reveal Earth and the moon are nowhere to be seen which means they are much farther away than a simple space-station orbiting Earth.

The only other explanation would be that the androids, which are obviously alien tech as well, were fully autonomous (with no human oversight of their interactions with the subjects) and are not advanced to the point of being truly human-like in regards to their responses. In addition to Nic's outburst about the color/shape blocks Damon had strange comments or phrasings a couple of other times that ultimately betrayed his nature.

Definitely aliens, and everything that exists within the "experiment habitat" has to conform to earth-like expectations (guns, buildings, vehicles, etc.) with the obvious exception of the alien-tech that is the focus of the experiment.

i think its humans abducting humans .. just much more advanced humans or more evolved, i think the more evolved human are abducting lesser evolved humans from earth experimenting with them to create a hybrid with technology they have discovered along there travels, first testing the human spirit and the lengths the spirit will go on their own, which might be why the woman is crazy and the man goes crazy and the locals seem off because they have been broken in seclusion with no real contact with other sane people ,

I think Nic was permanently injured in a carnival ride accident (flying chairs). However, I never did understand the race where he was ahead of everyone else but was afraid (?) of crossing the water? Then how is it that he had fallen in the water and everyone was running over him?

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