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Was adoption discussed in the movie? (Not seen the movie but plan to).

posted 10 years ago by marioreturns
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Is adoption discussed at ALL in the movie?

From what I've read about the plot and what everybody else says, she never even gives that a thought.

Just straight "Oh well, I'm going to have an abortion." No consideration of any other options or anything.

I will see the movie, but it sounds like the "Obvious Child" did not want to think about adoption because it would have forced her to carry the child to term and then risk becoming attached to him/her.

And then maybe she would not want to give the child up after all..........

I mean, you are not ready to be mother and it would interfere with your career.......I can mostly understand that............

But why not adoption, then?

Sounds also to me that she did it (the abortion) mostly for the fact that she was immature and did not want to have the child interfere with her career......I guess that is what the movie is all about, right?

I lean pro-life, but I plan on seeing the movie.

Just asking. Thanks in advance.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 10 years ago

It's not what she wanted to do. That's why she didn't put a lot of thought into that option.

I will see the movie, but it sounds like the "Obvious Child" did not want to think about adoption because it would have forced her to carry the child to term and then risk becoming attached to him/her.

No to this.

Sounds also to me that she did it (the abortion) mostly for the fact that she was immature and did not want to have the child interfere with her career...

Like she was an obvious child, right?

But why not adoption, then?

I know, right! It's not like it hurts or anything (or takes 9 months).

I also love how everyone thinks that adoption is the answer b/c as we all know every orphan gets adopted and has a wonderful life. Orphanages are on the verge of extinction due to lack of unwanted children.

Watch the movie (or don't). It won't change your views on this subject. It's not supposed to. It's just a story about one person and how they handled the situation. Movies don't owe you every option explored equally or talked about in depth to make an informed decision. It's just one story about one woman. THE END.

[–] marioreturns 10 years ago

You are right---not every movie owes one an explanation-------it just seemed to me (and I did finally see the movie) that the movie seemed to imply that she (Donna) had no other choice BUT to have an abortion..........it IS a story of one WOMAN'S experience with eh abortion industry...............it just seemed unrealistic that Donna acted like "oh well, no choice but this.......no thinking about the child inside of me...........*beep* it!!!!!"

I actually would have said "Go ahead," (I think it is wrong, but you have to live with it.............have fun explaining it to God or whomever in the afterlife)but still................................most women (and I am willing to admit that some may not indeed give it a second thought) in REAL LIFE would have at least given it some thought.

And she WAS an "obvious child," let's admit that, right?

That was part of what the movie was about. You may not condone what she did, but you understand WHY it happened.

Her obvious immaturity, the way she was brought up, the environment and lifestyle she surrounds herself with and practices, etc. etc.

Do not know why you are being a "jerk" about that.

And no, it did not change my views about abortion.

But it does show this inability of our society in general to look at anything beyond our navel----and out self-interest.

"I'm not getting my needs met? Divorce the person I am with. No attempt to work things out. Better yet, have an affair. After all if my spouse had been a better husband/wife.............😫"

"Get pregnant after a one-night stand? Due to me and the guy's inability to control our liquor and our general lack of sexual self-control? And the child engendered from it interferes with BOTH our lives? (Particularly MINE, since "IT" would derail somewhat my plans on being the greatest comedian of all time?)NO BIG DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just get an abortion! No thought about ALL of the options available to me OR the life inside of you!!!!!!!!!!"

Yep, no big deal.

Sorry, but everything is disposable in our culture. Other folks agree with me. You and others don't, fine. This forum is for a VARIETY of viewpoints.

And I never said (or most pro-lifers would say) that adoption is the "be-all and end-all" of an issue like this. Yes, it is fraught with problems like everything else in life----------but at least it does not involve killing a human life----would not that be fair to see here?

MY opinion, of course. Like I am entitled to.

Ok movie, but it just shows the usual talking points in most mainstream movies nowadays---whether of the left or right.

Just for once, I wish they could show a movie with a difficult, ambiguous ending where all sides are shown and no demonization of any political parties or ideologies occurs. But I guess that just wishful thinking, I guess.

THE END.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 10 years ago

that the movie seemed to imply that she (Donna) had no other choice BUT to have an abortion....

Again, the reason it was not presented as an option is b/c she didn't want to do it. End of discussion. She doesn't owe you "exploring every option available and make an informed decision". Her character didn't want to go the adoption route, so she didn't.

And she WAS an "obvious child," let's admit that, right?

I'm sorry, was I NOT admitting that? Was I too subtle with this line "Like she was an obvious child, right?"

That was part of what the movie was about. You may not condone what she did, but you understand WHY it happened.

Why are you telling me things I already know?

Do not know why you are being a "jerk" about that.

I wasn't being a "jerk". However I was annoyed by someone making incorrect assumptions about a film she hadn't seen (at the time).

I'M SKIPPING YOUR INCOHERENT RANT...

[–] immitch8965 9 years ago

Totally wrecked that person. Perfect answers. They took it as you being a dick haha. Bravo(not being sarcastic)

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

She made it pretty easy. My favorite part was when she repeated things I said back to me as if she was teaching me something new.

[–] jtrafalgar 9 years ago

hahahaha. Thank you for restoring my faith in at least a segment of humanity!

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

No problem! 

[–] Kuato_and_George 10 years ago

This movie was a pro-choice and feminism commercial - and I say that was someone who is not anti-abortion, I just don't view it was a badge of honor the way liberal types do.

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[–] bucktoof1978 9 years ago

It's pure NWO brainwashing. Depopulation is their goal and this is achieved "semi humanely " by encouraging people to not reproduce. And by humanely I mean the homosexuality and feminist crap. Neither of which really produce notiable birth rates.

This disgusting abomination of film just further encourages selfishness and disregard for responsibilities / morals. As a Christian I had a great spiritual conflict trying to get all the way through this film. But I try to educate myself constantly on how Satan tries to corrupt us.

[–] MazElmo 9 years ago

Why on earth did you watch it then?

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

Read his/her post again. Do you really think he/she watched the film?

They just see the word "abortion" and instantly go wacka-doodles.

[–] jtrafalgar 9 years ago

The title of the movie is Obvious Child because the choice is obvious. Children aren't an accessory that just fits comfortably into your life and nothing changes. And pregnancy and childbirth aren't a picnic either. Abortion was the mature, responsible choice. It's insane that you would expect a woman to rearrange her entire life because of one drunken mistake.

[–] wylierichardson-966-922691 9 years ago

"Juno" is a movie about a young woman with an unplanned pregnancy, who then decides to give up the baby for adoption. That is your movie option, for any rabid pro-lifers.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

The title of the movie is Obvious Child because the choice is obvious.

I think it had more to do with the main character being immature. Then having to make an incredibly mature decision.

[–] shockvaluecola 9 years ago

Adoption is a terrifyingly hard thing to do and I don't blame anyone for not doing it. It's not just a magical compromise between having it and not having it. A brief list of points:

-Adoption is WAY harder psychologically on the pregnant person than abortion. Most people feel mostly relief after abortion and their feelings don't last that long, while giving up a child for adoption regularly screws your mental health for a decade or more.
-There's plenty of counseling available after an abortion, not so much after adoption. Most of the post-adoption counseling that is there is focused on finding a husband and having your replacement baby and becoming a Good Christian Wife and putting it behind you. For obvious reasons, this doesn't work for everyone.
-The foster care system is already overloaded, and unless you go private adoption, that's almost certainly where your child will end up.
-It still requires the physical resources and medical risk involved with pregnancy and childbirth. There is no low-risk or painless way to do these things.

Also, two points from a filmmaking perspective: obviously she does struggle with the choice, or we wouldn't have a whole movie about it. Also, we don't need another Juno.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

Couldn't agree more. Anti-choicers act as if orphanages are on the edge of extinction and need more babies b/c so many people want to adopt. This is simply not the case. Very few children are actually adopted. Most orphans just age themselves out of the system.

I'd be curious to see how many "pro-lifers" have actually adopted children. It's easy to talk the talk, but I'd be willing to bet that many of them have not walked that walk.