Abortion! It's Fantastic! - Obvious Child (2014) Discussion

[–] doggie_rodriguez 10 years ago

I think you purposely misconstruing the film's message is far more repugnant.

If this was the message you took away from the film then it would be safe to assume you have not seen the movie.

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[–] Flmbff 10 years ago

I have seen the movie and it shamelessly promotes the use of abortion as a convenience.
--Jeff--

Jeffrey Lee Hollis

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[–] doggie_rodriguez 10 years ago

I've seen the movie and no it doesn't.

So if she had kept the baby would you be saying they shamelessly promoted keeping the baby? Oh wait I forgot, it's only "propaganda" if you disagree with it.

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[–] johnmichael-2 10 years ago

I have seen the movie and it shamelessly promotes the use of abortion as a convenience.

Seems fine by me. I mean, I haven't seen the film yet... and it probably doesn't promote that message at all... but abortion is a great convenience, and to more than just the mother. Too many kids on this earth anyway. And they're such money-suckers. And chances are you'll be estranged from them anyway. Also they're annoying.

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[–] kscharplaz 8 years ago

I can't tell whether you're being tongue-in-cheek or serious. I HOPE you're being tongue-in-cheek! If you're serious, I can only say that I'm sorry about whatever made you so pessimistic, and I hope you'll soon have more happiness.

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[–] Dejay 10 years ago

Yeah I felt similarly. Their choices make sense rationally but it feels really wrong. Like "I don't want to see this *beep*

Posted a few more thoughts here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2910274/board/nest/244861160

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[–] doggie_rodriguez 10 years ago

Their choices make sense rationally...

Agreed.

...but it feels really wrong.

Funny how when religion is added to the mix the rational becomes the irrational. (I know you didn't specifically say anything about religion, but that is most people's argument)

Nobody likes abortion. But I feel like pro-lifers misrepresent the argument. Not to mention, most of the politicians that are pro-life are constantly voting to cut Head Start funding, food stamps, healthcare for children that need it. It's like once they are out of the womb they are on their own! (which kind of ruins their "pro-life" credibility).

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[–] Dejay 10 years ago

Yep :) Pro-life until you are born! Then you can go to hell :D

And there are plenty of rational reasons to oppose abortions (e.g. larger tax base haha) and rational things you could do to reduce abortions (sex ed, healthcare, access to contraception). I wish the movie had touched upon these things.

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[–] shrugs 9 years ago

Troublingly, the people who usually oppose abortion are the same people who oppose sex education, and the people who are pro-choice are pro sex education.

What if a squirrel wants a sausage?

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[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

They are also the same people that want to cut funding for programs that help the children once they are born.

They love fetuses, but they hate babies.

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[–] Milo-Jeeder 10 years ago

I don't really go around judging other people for their choices, but I really disliked the part where she joked about the abortion, when she said she was going to "kill it" and then laughed.

I really felt quite distressed at not receiving an invitation - Maleficent

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[–] crAnkie 9 years ago

You are completely right! It hides a sick misanthropic message.

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[–] wylierichardson-966-922691 9 years ago

If you look up the 'trivia' section on this flick, it reveals that Planned Parenthood had a hand in it's conception (so to speak), and production. What can we can infer from this? That it's 'message' (if there is one) is that people deserve reproductive freedom - including keeping abortion legal.

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[–] orangeandyellow2 9 years ago

i am pro-choice but i admit that i found some of the humor hard to watch. the thing is that she is a comedian so humor is her coping mechanism. i don't think that she was making light of the situation. she was just trying to survive.

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[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

Comedians are not "normal" people. It really is how they cope with things. Being on stage is like therapy. I don't know if the pro-lifers were purposely being obtuse or just completely missed the point organically. But I certainly didn't feel like she was making light of her situation at all.

Then again, I don't go bat $#*T crazy whenever someone has a different political view. So yeah, there's that.

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[–] liscarkat (19427) 5 years ago

That's not the films message. The film doesn't really have a message. It's just a dreary slog through a few months in the life of a pathetic loser of a woman who does not experience any personal growth. It's watchable, but really pointless.

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